Changes to PM Fare Collection at Center City stations...

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Changes to PM Fare Collection at Center City stations...

Postby JeffersonLeeEng » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:56 am

http://www.septa.org/fares/center-city-collection.html

Changes to PM Fare Collection
Monday - Friday, 3:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m.
Effective Monday, July 10, 2017

Starting Monday, July 10th, the fare validation procedures already in place for Weekday/PM travel (Monday-Friday, 3:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m.) at Temple, Jefferson, Suburban, 30th Street, and University City Stations will change as follows:
ALL Tickets will be inspected and punched, by the Fare Collection Personnel located at the stairways to the train platforms, and returned to the customer
Punched tickets must be presented to the Conductor on the train for collection - place in seat ticket slot

Customers with Passes will present them to the Fare Collection Personnel before going to the train platforms
Conductors will inspect Passes on the train - please have it visible

ALL customers traveling from these Center City Stations, on Weekdays between 3:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. must have a pre-paid fare (ticket or pass) before going to the train platform. Fares can be purchased at the Station Ticket Office

Customers traveling with valid Reduced Fare and Senior Citizen identification, including SEPTA Key Cards, must pre-purchase the appropriate ticket
Present the valid form of ID and ticket to the Fare Collection Personnel. The ticket will inspected, punched and returned
The punched ticket will be collected by the Conductor on the train

The PM Fare Collection Procedure for Temple, Jefferson, Suburban, 30th Street, and University City Station will continue until further notice
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Re: Changes to PM Fare Collection at Center City stations...

Postby R3 Passenger » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:30 pm

I understand that this program was begun last summer in response to the Silverliner 5 debacle since the shortage of cars led to crowded trains. It continued after regular schedules were restored. But why even keep people stationed at the platform entrances to punch tickets and observe passes at this point if conductors are going to be collecting and inspecting fares on the train anyway?
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Re: Changes to PM Fare Collection at Center City stations...

Postby RRspatch » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:47 pm

I think SEPTA is just closing the unofficial free fare zone between Market East station (or what ever it's called now) and 30th street station. Back in my Amtrak daze I lived in South Joisey and worked at 30th street station. On weekdays I would take PATCO to 8th and Market, walk through the Gallery and catch a regional rail train to 30th street. Just to play it safe I had purchased one ticket for that route but was NEVER ask to produce it between those two stations. This of course was much cheaper for me to do than taking the Market Frankfort line even though the subway was quicker. I guess this was the worst kept secret in Philadelphia.
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Re: Changes to PM Fare Collection at Center City stations...

Postby CNJGeep » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:41 pm

R3 Passenger wrote:I understand that this program was begun last summer in response to the Silverliner 5 debacle since the shortage of cars led to crowded trains. It continued after regular schedules were restored. But why even keep people stationed at the platform entrances to punch tickets and observe passes at this point if conductors are going to be collecting and inspecting fares on the train anyway?

There has been a rather bad problem with over-riding in the PM Peak.
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