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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby braves » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:05 pm

Are any MARC cars still on SEPTA property & if so, how many are still with SEPTA?
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby Silverliner II » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:16 pm

braves wrote:Are any MARC cars still on SEPTA property & if so, how many are still with SEPTA?


Twelve cars remain leased by SEPTA at this time, running in two 6-car trainsets.

MARC IIa cab cars 7747, 7753
MARC IIb trailers 7716, 7719, 7721-7722, 7726-7728, 7730-7734, and 7792.

Amtrak has extended SEPTA's lease of two ACS-64 locomotives through February.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby STrRedWolf » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:13 am

Silverliner II wrote:
braves wrote:Are any MARC cars still on SEPTA property & if so, how many are still with SEPTA?


Twelve cars remain leased by SEPTA at this time, running in two 6-car trainsets.

MARC IIa cab cars 7747, 7753
MARC IIb trailers 7716, 7719, 7721-7722, 7726-7728, 7730-7734, and 7792.

Amtrak has extended SEPTA's lease of two ACS-64 locomotives through February.


It makes me wonder how MTA MARC will do with all that Philadelphia SEPTA Money.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby South Jersey Budd » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:44 pm

Down to 1 ACS-64, 5 MARC coaches and 1 MARC cab car. Operating on the Thorndale Line. This last set is rumored to be returned in the next few weeks.

The sale of the MARC cars to SEPTA may have also fell through.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby STrRedWolf » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:58 pm

South Jersey Budd wrote:Down to 1 ACS-64, 5 MARC coaches and 1 MARC cab car. Operating on the Thorndale Line. This last set is rumored to be returned in the next few weeks.

The sale of the MARC cars to SEPTA may have also fell through.


Makes me wonder where they're turning that train, or if they're serving it off the AMTRAK tracks...
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby Silverliner II » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:49 pm

STrRedWolf wrote:
South Jersey Budd wrote:Down to 1 ACS-64, 5 MARC coaches and 1 MARC cab car. Operating on the Thorndale Line. This last set is rumored to be returned in the next few weeks.

The sale of the MARC cars to SEPTA may have also fell through.


Makes me wonder where they're turning that train, or if they're serving it off the AMTRAK tracks...

Turning it? It's just operating between Frazer and Roberts Yard on the assigned Thorndale trips as it always has been, minus an occasional midday deadhead to Penn Coach for Amtrak to check out or swap out the Sprinter.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby Silverliner II » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:35 pm

Seven MARC cars remain on SEPTA property, with all seven in service on trains #9526/#9561 (normal assignment) today.
The remaining cars are:
Trailer coaches: MARC IIb 7716, 7721, 7730, 7732, 7733
Cab cars: MARC IIa 7747, 7753
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby khecht » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:42 pm

Don't the SEPTA ACS-64 units start arriving this year or early next? As I recall, the order was for 13 to replace 8 AEM7/ALP-44 units, which suggests an order for more passenger cars is needed, but I haven't seen that. MARC cars would provide a logical stopgap for at least part of that additional capacity, whether leased or bought.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby ekt8750 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:40 pm

khecht wrote:Don't the SEPTA ACS-64 units start arriving this year or early next? As I recall, the order was for 13 to replace 8 AEM7/ALP-44 units, which suggests an order for more passenger cars is needed, but I haven't seen that. MARC cars would provide a logical stopgap for at least part of that additional capacity, whether leased or bought.


The bid for the multilevels goes out this year (summer I believe). The Sprinters should be coming next year.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby South Jersey Budd » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:04 pm

Leased MARC and AMTRAK equipment to be returned Saturday to PENN Coach Yard.

Will be on 9561 tonight then 9526 and 9561 tomorrow.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby Silverliner II » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:31 am

Well, the fun is over.... and SEPTA's wallet breathes a sigh of relief. :D
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby STrRedWolf » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:20 am

"From Maryland with love."

I guess the love is gone now. :)
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby Fan Railer » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:18 pm

Welp, as of several hours ago, word down the grapevine is that the leased set will be staying for a while longer.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby Silverliner II » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:23 am

Typical railroad. Changing their minds as often as people change their underwear.
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Re: Leased equipment MARC/NJT/AMTK

Postby NorthPennLimited » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:38 am

They probably need the extra equipment to help with extra train service on Thursday & Friday for the NFL Draft and Penn Relays. The combined venues are expected to draw an additional quarter million people to Philadelphia.

When you combine that number with the normal weekday ridership, there is a potential for double the normal head count taking commuter rail into the city. Anyone who rides during rush hour knows SEPTA's growing ridership over the years has put a strain on capacity during rush hour. Most trains have people standing in the isle.

As far as I know, the MARC equipment isn't PTC equipped, and can't operate on the Reading side. PTC is not required (yet) in Amtrak territory and the MARC trains could operate in extra train service to Trenton, Paoli/Thorndale, and Wilmington/Newark. A spare 7 car train might come in handy next week.

I expect there will be an insane amount of Giants and Jets fans coming to the NFL draft via Trenton.
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