Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby EDM5970 » Thu May 14, 2015 10:14 am

I saw a pair of them on I-295 last evening in Lawrenceville, maybe around 7 PM, heading south. Too far away, and too quick, to catch any numbers, though- (Yes, they were on flatbed trucks, less their railroad trucks.)
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby TWTRTECH » Fri May 15, 2015 8:33 pm

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Must have been these two cars..#1017 and #1018
EDM5970 wrote:I saw a pair of them on I-295 last evening in Lawrenceville, maybe around 7 PM, heading south. Too far away, and too quick, to catch any numbers, though- (Yes, they were on flatbed trucks, less their railroad trucks.)
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby johnnyloco » Sun May 17, 2015 2:10 pm

5/17/2015

A 6-car test train ran this morning and was seen eastbound through Westmont returning to Lindenwold.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=4186926

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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby BuddCar711 » Mon May 18, 2015 6:33 pm

I can't believe that they're marrying up the singles, and they put a patch panel over the single-panel door instead of just replacing the whole section. I would hate to sit in that seat because there's no window next to that seat.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby jackintosh11 » Mon May 18, 2015 7:09 pm

Why are they marrying the singles, and why was that door there in the first place?
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Mon May 18, 2015 7:34 pm

jackintosh11 wrote:Why are they marrying the singles, and why was that door there in the first place?

Probably cost savings and standardization.
Since my friend continues to chain smoke nonstop, she is probably an Alco.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby prr60 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:27 pm

jackintosh11 wrote:Why are they marrying the singles, and why was that door there in the first place?

The door by the operator area was designed into the single cars as a means of having the train operator collect fares during owl-hour operations. It was assumed that owl trains would all be single car. The idea was that cashiers would not be on duty at the stations around the clock, so in off hours the station gates would be opened and fares collected on board. This design feature was finalized before the un-staffed fare collection system was selected eliminating the need for operator fare collection and the extra door.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby radioboy » Wed May 27, 2015 2:26 pm

Any photos of the door in question? It's been a while since I rode PATCO.



Is the 10am train on Thursday going all the way to 15th-16th? I'll be in the city and would like to see it if I can.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby chuchubob » Wed May 27, 2015 2:40 pm

single car extra door photo
for comparison, a double without the door
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby SCB2525 » Wed May 27, 2015 9:46 pm

I don't know, it does look like they put in a slightly bigger window.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby chuchubob » Thu May 28, 2015 1:32 pm

Ribbon-cutting ceremony at Woodcrest Thursday.
Westmont station: first revenue rebuilt train approaching and arrived.
interior photos of cab and passenger seat when the car is not leading.
arrived Broadway
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby BuddCar711 » Sat May 30, 2015 10:27 pm

Well I've got a chance to ride the PATCO rebuilds earlier today. There were Alsthom people riding as well. The automated announcements went ca ca (left 15th-16th & Locust). Skipped 12th-13th & Locust, 8th & Market announcement fails to mention SEPTA Regional Rail, skipped Ferry Avenue. Doors are slow in opening and closing. Door closing audible warning is a recording of the old bell ringing 3 times, and a male voice does the announcemnts. Interior is almost like a Silverliner V except the blue is lighter. Takeoffs and slowdowns are smooth, but did not hear the whine associated with electronic controllers like choppers or IBGTs (or is it IGBT). Overall I am impressed, but I think they could have done a better job than a patch panel on the former (and still should have been) singles.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby ReadingAve » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:38 am

Yes, the new cars are off and running. I had the chance to ride in one yesterday. I thought I read they're using the same motors (rebuilt) as before but the cars sure seemed to accelerate and brake more smoothly. That and I don't hear the familiar "whoosh of air" of the brakes releasing anymore. Overall a pleasant experience, though the quantity of automated announcements, both station stops as well as the other new generic announcements will take a bit to get used to.
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby JeffersonLeeEng » Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:23 pm

I was over near Bound Brook, NJ driving along I-287 N toward Bridgewater when I saw a flatbed truck with a PATCO car (not sure of the actual number) passed me. I guess it's headed out somewhere for refurbishing...
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Re: Update on PATCO Car Rebuild

Postby chuchubob » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:31 pm

I also rode yesterday. The announcements in car 1009 were way too loud, once they got them right. On the westbound trip they were one station behind until reset at 8th & Market, then didn't advance and were shut off. When they were turned on on the eastbound trip, they were ear-splitting.
view out the back, approaching Broadway.
view from the first seat, shooting through the cab.
station stop at Collingswood
entering Westmont
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