Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby ChesterValley » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:38 pm

Is this a SEPTA specific problem? Amtrak has had these units since 2014 and I don't recall them having issues like this
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby liftedjeep » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:13 pm

ChesterValley wrote:Is this a SEPTA specific problem? Amtrak has had these units since 2014 and I don't recall them having issues like this


I believe Amtrak did/does experience issues with their fleet of City Sprinters. However, I was once told by an Amtrak employee that because Amtrak has such a large fleet of them, we (the public) never notice when one or a handful go out of service.
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby blockline4180 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:39 pm

CNJGeep wrote:2306 and 2308 are out and about today, pinch hitting for broken Sprinters.


Any idea the trains they are assigned to this week? Plan on going down there either tomorrow night or Friday if they are still being used.
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Re: Best Place to see AEM7s and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby MACTRAXX » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:13 pm

SP: Going to trainspot on either side of the Center City Tunnel during the PM Peak hour would be a good idea...
Just remember that gating of the SEPTA boarding areas at the CCP stations goes until 8PM-A ticket,pass or SEPTA Key
is needed to enter. A Zone 2 Weekday one way ticket will get you to Elkins Park from CCP...

Consider this: Tomorrow (Thursday) night at 7:00PM is the Philadelphia Chapter-NRHS meeting at Elkins Park Station.
The program (which I do not recall) is going to be a decent one-I plan to attend if at all possible...MACTRAXX
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby eb684 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:57 pm

blockline4180 wrote:
CNJGeep wrote:2306 and 2308 are out and about today, pinch hitting for broken Sprinters.


Any idea the trains they are assigned to this week? Plan on going down there either tomorrow night or Friday if they are still being used.

2308 was on train 9251/9254 today, and I think I saw it on the GVF yesterday AM.
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby 8th Notch » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:34 am

ChesterValley wrote:Is this a SEPTA specific problem? Amtrak has had these units since 2014 and I don't recall them having issues like this


I haven’t seen a specific reason posted as to why they were “shopped” so we can’t assume there is a specific problem with the units. They can be shopped for a variety of reasons, major or minor.
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby glennk419 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:37 am

6378 had a Toaster on it last evening. Saw it passing Red Lion Road at 5:59 and was too far away to see the number but am guessing it was 2307.
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby njt/mnrrbuff » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:56 am

So what was discussed about the possibility of a farewell celebration and excursion to the Septa toasters and ALP44 at the meeting, if any?
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby Wingnut » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:40 pm

Train 1565, the 5:34 pm departure from Suburban to Thorndale, has 2306 leading. Man, those old toasters are pfftpfpfffttfting more than ever!
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby glennk419 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:25 pm

The toasters are having a Mark Twain moment as rumors of their demise has been grossly exaggerated.
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby Wingnut » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:41 pm

Yup they ain’t dead yet!

I’m taking a short ride to Radnor on the train with 2306. I also saw 2308 pushing the second afternoon West Trenton express. I get a kick out of how the ALP-44 gets sent to NJ so often. Who knows, maybe this is the last time for that??
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby CNJGeep » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:05 pm

glennk419 wrote:6378 had a Toaster on it last evening. Saw it passing Red Lion Road at 5:59 and was too far away to see the number but am guessing it was 2307.

2308 and 2306 both went to West Trenton on Thursday night. 2307 was set to run on 6374 on Wednesday but never made it out of Powelton.
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby mcgrath618 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:39 pm

Why did SEPTA stop running push pulls on the Trenton Line?
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby CNJGeep » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:01 pm

mcgrath618 wrote:Why did SEPTA stop running push pulls on the Trenton Line?

Amtrak is doing heavy track work in the Trenton area. Equipment has to be shuffled around each night. It's an extra job, and not everyone is qualified on push-pulls.

That having been said, starting October 1st and continuing for about ten days anyone who wants to see not one, but two long push-pull sets, Trenton is the place to be.
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Re: Best Place to see Toasters and ALP-44 before retirement

Postby CNJGeep » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:11 pm

The ACS thread is locked so this might be a good place to mention this.

Starting tomorrow, 10/1 and for the duration of the Amtrak switch replacement at Zoo, there will be two 8-Car Push-Pull sets on the Trenton Line.

Trains 1701/7406 & 9724 in the morning. Trains 9745 & 9747 in the evening. Note that 7406 will swap equipment with an Elwyn train in town and will not continue with the ACS to the Reading side.
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