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NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby mbaker1979 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:32 pm

I just heard on the news that the last car of a NJT train (they said Amtrak at first) caught fire in Falls Township/Morrisville. One person was treated on-scene due to chest pain. The train was supposidly heading to NYC. Does anyone have further info regarding this?
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby SILVERTRAIN » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:53 pm

If what you heard is correct it sounds like the rearbrake might be the one hospitalized
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby mbaker1979 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:13 pm

It was an ACES train that caught fire at Grundy Interlocking. (Probably from a stuck handbrake.)
But we'll find out soon enough.
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby Nexis4Jersey » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:54 pm

what a great publicity stunt for the failing ACES service LOL :-)
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby mbaker1979 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:45 pm

I said the same thing to myself, but decided to just post what I posted.
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby khecht » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:26 pm

There's a reasonably written article from the Philadelphia Inquirer here: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100 ... ridor.html
Rail service resumed after Bucks train fire
By Maria Panaritis - INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
An engine fire in Bucks County aboard a New York-bound train carrying Atlantic City casino patrons temporarily halted train service along a portion of the Northeast Corridor tonight and sent three people to the hospital. The passengers on the Atlantic City Express Services (ACES) train suffered "non-life-threatening injuries," New Jersey Transit spokeswoman Penny Bassett Hackett said. They were among 62 riders and four crew members evacuated from the four-car train following the 5:45 p.m. fire, which broke out in Morrisville, below Trenton.


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If the facts are correct, it would seem an ALP44 caught fire. Three passenger injuries, I would guess from the evacuation.
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby Jtgshu » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:34 pm

ABC6 in Philly has some pictures and a story....the pic shows the 4800, and the cars, but doesn't show the ALP

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7276236

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FALLS TOWNSHIP, Pa. - February 13, 2010 (WPVI) -- A NJ Transit ACES train caught fire Saturday evening in Morrisville.
It happened around 530 p.m. on a NJ Transit ACES train that was heading to New York from Atlantic City. 62 passengers and five crewmembers were aboard the NJ Transit train when the locomotive caught fire outside Morrisville. Flames were shooting out of the engine's exhaust and the heat of the fire brought down the overhead power lines.


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One of the earlier reports said the last car of the train, which would be the P40.....

This story just says an engine fire, not which one....

I did get a report that the ALP was cooked - NJTs version of burnt toast I guess ahahah
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby jimzim66 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:06 am

Jtgshu wrote:ABC6 in Philly has some pictures and a story....the pic shows the 4800, and the cars, but doesn't show the ALP

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7276236

One of the earlier reports said the last car of the train, which would be the P40.....

This story just says an engine fire, not which one....

I did get a report that the ALP was cooked - NJTs version of burnt toast I guess ahahah


Who let Nick on the ACES train? I didn't see him in the crowd boarding at AC...
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby BuddSilverliner269 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:40 am

JT, I dont know for a fact which engine caught fire, but the news report said flames were shooting out of the stack meaning it was the P40 that caught fire. 1400 feet of catenary is alot of wire to rip down and I doubt that if it was the ALP44, that the engineer wouldve had the train moving and not knowing what was going on with that much wire damage occuring. Maybe we need to get Jersey Mike in here to tell you NJT engineers how to run the train properly without this sort of thing happening since he knows everything, and nothing at all.
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby ApproachMedium » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:15 am

Photos inthe delay thread confirm its a P40 that caused the problem. From what I can see, it looks alot like when an EMD blows a turbo, since I have only ever seen photos of EMDs blowing turbos I cant say much for the GE!
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby jimzim66 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:07 am

BuddSilverliner269 wrote:JT, I dont know for a fact which engine caught fire, but the news report said flames were shooting out of the stack meaning it was the P40 that caught fire. 1400 feet of catenary is alot of wire to rip down and I doubt that if it was the ALP44, that the engineer wouldve had the train moving and not knowing what was going on with that much wire damage occuring. Maybe we need to get Jersey Mike in here to tell you NJT engineers how to run the train properly without this sort of thing happening since he knows everything, and nothing at all.


I've been told the train left with pans down, as the power change was moved back to Newark. The wire came down because the flames burned the catenary.
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby Matt Johnson » Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:29 am

Thank goodness that didn't happen in the tunnel or NYP!
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby GE-RULES » Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:39 am

It was more than likely some carbon buildup in the stack that ignited causing the engine to belch. This wouldn't have been a big deal if it happened anywhere else but because of the catenary, it became a big deal obviously...
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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby Jtgshu » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:19 pm

As specatular as it was, it looks like it was a "plain ol" GE stack fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mofH790DEk8

Its not the ACES train, but another quality GE product, but its at idle, and not running at 100mph in notch 8!!!!

Of course, there could be a reason why it did it, like a blown turbocharger, or power assembly or something else, but its not totally out of the ordinary. Like GE-Rules said, its not a real big deal, anywhere else, but melting 1500 feet of catenary on a high profile train well....its gonna make the news!

the fire probably burnt it self out when the prime mover was shut down and the rest of the fuel burned off

I saw it on HLN this morning actually hahahhaha At least ACES is getting nationwide exposure!

Gee, I wonder why they aren't doing the motive power change at Shore anymore?

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Re: NJT train catches fire in Falls Township/Morrisville?

Postby Otto Vondrak » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:34 pm

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