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NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby Yankees1 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:25 pm

Any word on when the normal schedule will be restored? I imagine they will introduce the cut trains in reverse order of when they cut them (Restore RVL direct and AC line before restoring the rest of the NJCL Hoboken trains)
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby JamesRR » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:34 am

They're still cancelling trains left and right so I can't imagine they will restore them anytime soon.
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby EuroStar » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:58 pm

As per the governor and NJT, the FRA has to sign off on some of the engines that have had PTC installed before they can be operated again. Until then they will gather rust due to the federal shutdown. My money is that even if the shutdown ends tomorrow, the current schedule will continue throughout February.
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby lensovet » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:44 pm

EuroStar wrote:As per the governor and NJT, the FRA has to sign off on some of the engines that have had PTC installed before they can be operated again. Until then they will gather rust due to the federal shutdown. My money is that even if the shutdown ends tomorrow, the current schedule will continue throughout February.

NJT has explicitly stated that the shutdown is not affecting them in any way and FRA inspectors are considered essential personnel who are still working.
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby EuroStar » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:10 am

lensovet wrote:NJT has explicitly stated that the shutdown is not affecting them in any way and FRA inspectors are considered essential personnel who are still working.

Yep, with the caveat that they have said the opposite too at least per the media, for example, here https://www.crainsnewyork.com/transportation/nj-transit-trains-idle-project-overtook-daily-tasks. At this point my money is on a delay in the restoration, especially on the AC line, but I hope I am wrong. Maybe partial restoration of the cancelled trains on the NEC and the other busy lines with the Raritan trains to NYC and the AC line delayed further, but really, who knows ... My guess will be as good as yours on this.
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby EuroStar » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:29 am

It is a week before February 1 when the schedule is supposed to be reverted back, but they have not published new schedules or announced anything. In the past how early would they publish the revised schedules?
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby jamesinclair » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:30 pm

No date given, but it is coming back.

"NJ Transit will restore rail service on the Atlantic City Line in the spring, the agency said Friday.

The agency had temporarily suspended trains between Philadelphia and Atlantic City in September in an effort to meet federal safety requirements by the end of 2018.

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NJ Transit will extend the 25 percent discount on alternative bus service it has offered since September for Atlantic City riders until rail service is restored."

Full article:
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 677511002/


Having the line closed for a few months allowed NJT to upgrade the line to full automated driverless operation with 30 minute headways right?
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby pumpers » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:07 pm

New Jersey Transit: Dinky train (Princeton branch) service won’t resume until spring (or later)

https://planetprinceton.com/2019/01/25/ ... il-spring/

Further, Alexander Rd, the route of the replacement bus service and 1 of the 2 roads between Princeton and Princeton junction (the Dinky endpoints) shuts down completely later this year for an extended time for major bridge replacements, with utility work and partial daytime shutdowns and detours starting next month already. The bus already often has major delays and overcrowding.
A major screw-up all around, to put it mildly.

EDIT: I feel sorry for the mid-level managers who have to get the trains out and staffed and in service every day (probably a non-stop juggling and high-wire act), and save my ire for the big shots that feathered the nest at the top with their political cronies and paybacks rather than hiring the best person for the job. This is what results...
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby MACTRAXX » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:50 pm

Pumpers:

Add your post about the status of the Dinky to the "New Dinky to Nassau Street" topic which has
been dormant since January 14. This will revive the discussion there...

I was not aware that the Princeton Shuttle train operation has been shut down and replacement
bus service is being operated. Thanks for this information and the PP link...MACTRAXX
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby ryanov » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:51 am

I believe it was News12 that reported yesterday that the ACL will not resume until April or later.
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby DutchRailnut » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:53 am

second quarter of 2019 for some restoration.
https://www.progressiverailroading.com/ ... -Q2--56605
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby EuroStar » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:18 pm

No matter what they say, the reality is that there are not enough engineers to run the full schedule up in North Jersey and the Atlantic City Line at the same time.
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby blockline4180 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:15 pm

EuroStar wrote:No matter what they say, the reality is that there are not enough engineers to run the full schedule up in North Jersey and the Atlantic City Line at the same time.


True, but they can still get their "promise" of running ACL trains before June 30th, as long as they cut more train service elsewhere( Possibly PVL, or Montclair weekend service).. In fact I find that the most likely scenario when they bring back the trains to AC.
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby EuroStar » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:37 am

blockline4180 wrote:True, but they can still get their "promise" of running ACL trains before June 30th, as long as they cut more train service elsewhere( Possibly PVL, or Montclair weekend service).. In fact I find that the most likely scenario when they bring back the trains to AC.


I doubt that very much. The PVL has quite a bit higher ridership than AC. Note that nothing has been announced about reverting the service cuts from 3 months ago up in the north. The discount went away beginning today (other than the AC discount), but there is no word about those trains coming back. While they might still come back, this looks more and more like a stealth service cut up north. The lack of engineers is mostly to blame, but sure NJT finds the cuts very convenient in terms of reducing the operating deficit. NJT is continuing the tradition of making service cuts when the economy is doing well. I cannot imagine what it will become when the economy tanks next time...
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Re: NJTransit Normal Schedule Resumption

Postby blockline4180 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:53 pm

EuroStar wrote:
blockline4180 wrote:True, but they can still get their "promise" of running ACL trains before June 30th, as long as they cut more train service elsewhere( Possibly PVL, or Montclair weekend service).. In fact I find that the most likely scenario when they bring back the trains to AC.


I doubt that very much. The PVL has quite a bit higher ridership than AC. Note that nothing has been announced about reverting the service cuts from 3 months ago up in the north. The discount went away beginning today (other than the AC discount), but there is no word about those trains coming back. While they might still come back, this looks more and more like a stealth service cut up north. The lack of engineers is mostly to blame, but sure NJT finds the cuts very convenient in terms of reducing the operating deficit. NJT is continuing the tradition of making service cuts when the economy is doing well. I cannot imagine what it will become when the economy tanks next time...



So then you are in the camp that NJT will not keep their word and not start service up on the AC Line by June 30th?? It seems we are going in circles with start up dates...
I'm just trying to figure out what exactly your thinking is on that!!
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