NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby ThirdRail7 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:40 pm

sammy2009 wrote:I am nervous for this move....I am just wondering can these cars from SEPTA keep schedule and keep the speed.


I'm nervous for another reason. Weren't these engines unreliable since they've never been overhauled?
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby CNJGeep » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:00 pm

Let's stop and think for a moment.

NJT needs to boost their PTC-equipped engine count.
Suddenly, seven engines with working PTC are available at bargain basement prices.
Nowhere does it say the engines with working PTC need to be out on the road...

All I'm going to say is, anyone's who's getting tight in the trousers for these engines to turn a wheel may want to release that breath they've been holding.
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby CNJGeep » Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:01 pm

ThirdRail7 wrote:
I'm nervous for another reason. Weren't these engines unreliable since they've never been overhauled?


Unreliable would be one of the few family-friendly phrases I would use, yes.
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby NorthPennLimited » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:07 pm

I wonder if the AEM-7 lease is for cash or SEPTA will exchange the horse power hours for some diesels from NJT to cover SEPTA’s work trains and gel trains.

I’m also skeptical the SEPTA motors will see revenue service to NYP from Morrisville. They could barely keep time running 6&7 car express trains on low mileage trips at 50 - 70mph. And they are as reliable as a flashlight from the dollar store.
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby CNJGeep » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:46 pm

NorthPennLimited wrote:I wonder if the AEM-7 lease is for cash or SEPTA will exchange the horse power hours for some diesels from NJT to cover SEPTA’s work trains and gel trains.

Probably $$$$. I've heard nothing to indicate Transit is going to trade a diesel a la MARC. But maybe one of the MP20s could head down. Those are probably the only things that fit through the tunnel, and SEPTA is NOT going to lease an engine that doesn't fit through the tunnel.
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby boomer » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:12 pm

ThirdRail7 wrote:
sammy2009 wrote:I am nervous for this move....I am just wondering can these cars from SEPTA keep schedule and keep the speed.


I'm nervous for another reason. Weren't these engines unreliable since they've never been overhauled?


There is plenty of life still left in the old girls. Frazer shops have been working around the clock getting them ready and up to date as far as calendar inspections and other FRA requirements. If NJT chooses not to run them thats one thing, but even though they ain't so pretty any more they're not all basket cases.
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby blockline4180 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:05 pm

CNJGeep wrote:Let's stop and think for a moment.

...

All I'm going to say is, anyone's who's getting tight in the trousers for these engines to turn a wheel may want to release that breath they've been holding.



That's really a Damn shame... Here am I sitting here thinking the only reason NJT is leasing them is so they can use them on revenue trains on the opposite end(Instead of cab car) with the ALP45/46 doing all the work... It's too far fetched to believe that??
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby liftedjeep » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:05 am

-Septa's AEM-7/ALP-44 transfer move to NJ Transit, through Holmesburg Junction on 12/23:

https://youtu.be/7adUlqLuYc0

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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby NorthPennLimited » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:32 pm

Have they Moved since being delivered to NJT? Or are the wheels growing rust up in Morrisville Yard?
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby blockline4180 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:41 am

NorthPennLimited wrote:Have they Moved since being delivered to NJT? Or are the wheels growing rust up in Morrisville Yard?


Growing rust, and will probably continue to do so!
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby ConstanceR46 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:21 pm

So apparently the plan is to let them sit in Morrisville because them being leased means the required portion of the roster has PTC.
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby lensovet » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:11 am

ConstanceR46 wrote:So apparently the plan is to let them sit in Morrisville because them being leased means the required portion of the roster has PTC.

is this a joke?
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby lensovet » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:35 am

ConstanceR46 wrote:https://www.flickr.com/photos/darrylrule/32829873238/

as serious as a funeral

i have to wonder — are they in such bad shape that this makes more sense than sandwiching locos between cars?
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Re: NJT to lease AEM-7s and ALP-44s from SEPTA

Postby sammy2009 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:28 pm

ConstanceR46 wrote:So apparently the plan is to let them sit in Morrisville because them being leased means the required portion of the roster has PTC.


Atleast SEPTA is making a profit so they can put to that $63,000,000 Million gap they facing. lol
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