ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby chrisf » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:00 pm

The 4219 was NJT 4148 before rebuild, and L&N 3026 way before that. It was never a CNJ unit.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby trainster78 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:09 am

Yea I just realized that. I think it was a PH-2A before it was wrecked then right?
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby ACeInTheHole » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:22 pm

He just said that.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby dowlingm » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:40 pm

20 ALP45s and some multilevels might be available at a competitive price in a couple of years - AMT/RTM is selling once they are kicked out of the Mont Royal tunnel.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby lensovet » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:32 am

for those who can't read French: there are two lines that go into a tunnel downtown and therefore use the dual mode feature.

one of those lines, to Deux Montagnes, is getting replaced entirely with light rail as part of a brand new light rail network. no need for dual modes since it will be all-electric LRVs.

the other line is getting cut back to a new, future transfer station which is just outside the tunnel. therefore a plain diesel will do.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby ALP45DP 4515 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:45 pm

I wonder if NJ Transit will snatch up those 45's from AMT? They seem to be happy with them if they're ordering more, however I've heard from a family member who works with the 45's that the 3512C's in them require frequent maintenance.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby lensovet » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:17 pm

I also wonder about Amtrak and their P32AC-DMs? How many more years of service do they have on them? Plus if they replace them they could rip out and stop maintaining the third rail on lines that are not shared with MTA.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:30 am

Whatever combined order of LIRR/MN and Amtrak will look like we know one thing yes it will be third rail dual mode and not overhead.
and it will most likely not be Bombardier or EMD .
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby lensovet » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:31 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:Whatever combined order of LIRR/MN and Amtrak will look like we know one thing yes it will be third rail dual mode and not overhead.
and it will most likely not be Bombardier or EMD .

how come?
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby andrewjw » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:36 pm

lensovet wrote:
DutchRailnut wrote:Whatever combined order of LIRR/MN and Amtrak will look like we know one thing yes it will be third rail dual mode and not overhead.
and it will most likely not be Bombardier or EMD .

how come?

both of those companies have had recent quality issues
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:49 pm

quality issues and financial issues , also their warranty is questionable at best.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:00 pm

It will be a few years before the RMT/AMT AL-45-DP's show up on the secondhand marketplace.
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby Matt Johnson » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:29 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:Whatever combined order of LIRR/MN and Amtrak will look like we know one thing yes it will be third rail dual mode and not overhead.
and it will most likely not be Bombardier or EMD .


Too bad. My dream train is a Siemens Brightline set but with a diesel on one end and a Brightline loco with ACS-64 internals on the other end, painted in the RTL-III Turboliner paint scheme. :)
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby Zuccaraillo » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:11 pm

So you’re imaging a Siemens Charger and ACS-64 on one train
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Re: ALP-45-DP Supplemental Order

Postby Matt Johnson » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:26 pm

Zuccaraillo wrote:So you’re imaging a Siemens Charger and ACS-64 on one train


Yep, in a nice Brightline-like integrated trainset package with the aerodynamic nose/coupler shrouds.
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