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Positive Train Control (PTC)

Postby EuroStar » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:27 am

There are reports that NJT is looking almost certain to miss the deadline for PTC installation (December 31, 2018). Here is one of them https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-31/nj-transit-may-miss-locomotive-safety-deadline-documents-show, but other sources are also available on the net. The article obviously has certain inaccuracies in its description of what PTC could have done for the Hoboken crash and does delve in the controversial firing of the safety officer, but let's put those aside. I have seen other reports suggesting that even the first line to get PTC, Morris&Essex is still very far from even testing.

What happens if NJT misses the deadline and is really far behind? I imagine if many other commuter agencies are not able to satisfy the deadline Congress will give another extension. What happens in the case when almost every other commuter railroad is ready with it and NJT is not? Complete shutdown of every line that does not have PTC until it is installed? That probably means that only the NEC will be operational for some time.

On a related note, how far ahead is the MTA? If LIRR and Metro-North are ready by the deadline and NJT is not, it is likely to be much harder to get an extension of any kind.
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Re: Positive Train Control (PTC)

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:54 pm

There's a report on the WCBS news stream that the feds are thinking of fining NJT $50,000 for missing some of their "internal" deadlines
on the PTC install.
Given the "cash-strapped" NJT is behind on projects in general..... stay tuned!

This started from a FRA inspection report dated June 2017,via "The Record",a Bergen county newspaper obtained a copy of this.
NJT blames contractor,also only 13 locos are setup for PTC,crew training is running slow as well.
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Re: Positive Train Control (PTC)

Postby time » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:20 pm

There are new silver boxes (assuming PTC equipment) placed at where the M&E and Montclair Boonton lines merge, and at Millburn where it bottlenecks from 3 tracks to 2 tracks, with curves, a grade and wet leaves. :)
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Re: Positive Train Control (PTC)

Postby EuroStar » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:32 am

Testing of PTC between Madison and Denville will begin next year after federal regulators gave the go ahead https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/transportation/2017/10/17/feds-give-nj-transit-green-light-test-system-prevent-train-crashes/769382001/.
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Re: Positive Train Control (PTC)

Postby kilroy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:25 pm

And then they'll work out the bugs and install it on the remaining 316 miles of track in ..... nine months. Riiiiiiight.
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Re: Positive Train Control (PTC)

Postby time » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:05 pm

I believe they've already made significant progress with installation. As I mentioned earlier, the infrastructure is being put in place now near Newark Broad and Millburn. They're not waiting on test results to move forward with build out.
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