NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby kilroy » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:41 pm

The family of the one victim killed in the crash has filed claims for damages in order to sue.

The family of the 34-year-old attorney killed while on the platform at Hoboken Terminal on September 29th when a speeding train plowed into the station, has taken legal action against those responsible, according to claims filed with New Jersey Transit (NJT). The train's engineer, Thomas Gallagher, and the NJT employees involved in the decision not to implement necessary safety technology and improvements, including positive train control (PTC) despite two similar accidents at the same location, are named in the filings.


http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/family-of-victim-killed-while-on-train-platform-files-claims-in-new-jersey-transit-hoboken-terminal-crash-300382056.html
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby time » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:26 pm

The LIRR had a similar accident today in Brooklyn.
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby Defiant » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:44 pm

Does anyone have any idea if NJT actually plans to restore Hoboken terminal to full operation? It has been at least four months since the crash and a number of tracks are still out of service. More importantly from the daily commuters point of view, we have to go from one set of open tracks to another set through the terminal building. This creates substantial bottlenecks and inconvenience.

I see absolutely no work being done on the closed parts of the canopy and the tracks when I am in Hoboken. Maybe it is not noticeable... Anyone has any idea of what the plans are for this section?

I did write to NJT customer service. This is the pathetic response I received last Friday after about a month of waiting:

"I am replying to your feedback of 12/19/2016 regarding subject: Repairs on the Hoboken Terminal after the crash.
Thank you for contacting NJ TRANSIT regarding the Hoboken Rail Station.
I apologize for my delay in responding as well as for the circumstances you describe. Your correspondence was documented and made available to the appropriate supervisory personnel for review. Please be assured NJ TRANSIT is working hard to complete the necessary repairs at the Hoboken Terminal. Unfortunately we are unable to provide a definitive date for completion at this time.
Again, thank you for contacting us and for your continued support of NJ TRANSIT.


Sincerely,
<Name Redacted>
NJ TRANSIT Customer Service Team "
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby glennk419 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:01 pm

It is likely that the site is being held for legal and liability purposes, which means it could remain in that state indefinitely. Given the amount of damage, there is also undoubtedly a substantial amount of engineering work to ensure that the eventual restoration is performed safely and properly, although that could be done concurrently with the legal hold. It is also quite likely that the train set involved, or at a minimum the cab car (which will probably be a write off) and locomotive are also being held for the same legal reasons. I'm sure that no one more than NJT would like to see this entire incident put behind them.
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:12 pm

As long as there're Lawsuits pending,the Legal Dept "hold" on repairs/scrapping,etc prevents anything happening untill
everything is settelled, it's all considered "evidence" for the court proceedings.
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby philipmartin » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:53 am

Here's a New York Post articles on the awaiting repairs theme. http://nypost.com/2017/02/10/hoboken-te ... dly-crash/
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby Silverliner II » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:16 pm

philipmartin wrote:Here's a New York Post articles on the awaiting repairs theme. http://nypost.com/2017/02/10/hoboken-te ... dly-crash/

Speaking of which, I saw the trainset in question parked on the back side of the MMC, visible only to us guys running freight along the P&H line. The consist, locomotive and all, was still intact, with a tarp covering most of the cab car damage.
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby jackintosh11 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:27 pm

So was the cab car able to be moved on its own wheels?
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby Silverliner II » Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:12 pm

jackintosh11 wrote:So was the cab car able to be moved on its own wheels?

Yes.
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Re: NJT HOBOKEN TERMINAL ACCIDENT THREAD

Postby litz » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:12 pm

That's interesting ... that would seem to indicate as the bumper block rotated under the front of the cab car, it actually propelled the entire thing upwards, with enough clearance for the wheelset to land on the terminal deck.

One would think in a case like this, the car body would end up on the deck, and the edge of the deck would "clean the frame" of everything underneath the frame rails (bogeys, accessories, etc).

The physics of an accident sequence like this is fascinating ... so much force involved in so many different directions.
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