Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:19 pm

The Cutoff is a project that is worked on as time(manpower) and material available basis.
After Sandy,the lack of $$$$ to do basic state of good repair work,and now the PTC(ACSES II ) botched installations/software along
with Amtrak's notice of have ACSES installed or NO NEC access as of 12/31/18,have backburnered the cutoff for a while.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:43 am

With these "stats" set forth. and everything else Mr. Backshop notes, it is no wonder NJT's priorities are elsewhere:

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/sussex-county-nj/

At this time, Tuffy the Turtle, Woodsie the Owl, Sammy the Squirrel, et magna alia, need not fear their "squatting" will be interrupted.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby Jeff Smith » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:14 pm

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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby CentralValleyRail » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:39 am

Backshophoss wrote:The Cutoff is a project that is worked on as time(manpower) and material available basis.
After Sandy,the lack of $$$$ to do basic state of good repair work,and now the PTC(ACSES II ) botched installations/software along
with Amtrak's notice of have ACSES installed or NO NEC access as of 12/31/18,have backburnered the cutoff for a while.


"Or NO NEC ACCESS as of 12/31/18"

We've heard that one before. Amtrak is no iron fist (rather soft) and will give another extension. Like Joe Nameth once said " I guarantee it!"
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby R&DB » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:24 am

Gilbert B Norman » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:43 am

With these "stats" set forth. and everything else Mr. Backshop notes, it is no wonder NJT's priorities are elsewhere

I personally don't think NJT is the problem. The rail transportation problem in NJ is that the legislature and or governor tend to re-allocate transport funds to their (or their friends) pockets.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby joeycannoli » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:59 am

Some positive news for the Cutoff - Andover, NJ Transit, and Hudson farm have reached a tentative agreement on the culvert work that has been holding up the project. This means there is no longer a need for the township to use eminent domain on the property. Looks like we will finally be getting some movement in the coming weeks, although any clearing of trees and brush will have to wait until the fall. Since the project is using federal funds, no work of this nature can be done during the mating season of the Indiana Bat (endangered species).

More information in the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyTN7e8 ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby n2cbo » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:07 am

joeycannoli wrote:Since the project is using federal funds, no work of this nature can be done during the mating season of the Indiana Bat (endangered species).



Please tell me that this is a joke... They are going to hold up the building of a railroad due to a bat????????????????
What is the difference if they cut the trees down now or in the winter? The trees will be gone either way...
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:12 am

'Fraid not, Mr. Cbo.

Read all about "Benny the Bat":

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_bat

Since it appears that Northern NJ is at the limits of where he and "Bonnie" are indigenous, best not do anything to upset their "fun and games" right now.

Hasn't it been said "It's Spring when the young man's fancy turns to love."

Oh well, this "Epic" has wandered anywhere and everywhere; may as well add the Natural Sciences to the list.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby David » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:26 am

Isn't there ANYWHERE they can work on this project during this bat love fest?
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby Rockingham Racer » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:34 pm

Reminds me of the desert turtle issue when UP wanted to double some track on Cima Hill in Nevada.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby cjvrr » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:35 pm

David wrote:Isn't there ANYWHERE they can work on this project during this bat love fest?


Not if it requires tree clearing.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby scoostraw » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:51 pm

n2cbo wrote:Please tell me that this is a joke... They are going to hold up the building of a railroad due to a bat????????????????

This line has been out of service for nearly 40 years.

What difference could a month or two (or 6) one way or the other possibly make at this point?
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby dgvrengineer » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:50 pm

By the time NJT works up the RFP's, allow time for bids to be submitted, study them and come to a decision the six months will probably be up.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby amtrakhogger » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:40 pm

I see the old thread is being dusted off again.
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Re: Lackawanna Cutoff Passenger Service Restoration

Postby JoeG » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:33 pm

Will the Cutoff be restored by the 100th anniversary of its closing? I mean, all the way to Slateford? Not that I can see.
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