Former Q Train Relay.

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Former Q Train Relay.

Postby railfan365 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:58 am

I noticed on a subway track map that the 57th/7th station on the Broadway Line has a pair of crossovers between the express tracks both just South of the station, and just North of the station. Of course, I already know that every bit of train movement costs, between the electricity consumed, and wear and tear on the equipment. However, going back to when 57th Street was the Q's Northern terminal I ask: With the minimal amount of extra train movement that would have been involved, why did they not run each empty train out of the station and relay back on the downdown track so that downtown passenger could necessarily go there instead of having to scramble to find which track the next downtown train would be leaving from?
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Re: Former Q Train Relay.

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:20 pm

Changing ends is more operationally efficient than relaying the train...relaying the train takes time and effort to kick everyone off the train since passengers can't ride the relay.

Or as my tower operator source (who is qualified there) put it: "If you change ends you can get the train in and out in 2 minutes."
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Re: Former Q Train Relay.

Postby jackintosh11 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:57 pm

Why not just let passengers ride the relay?
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Re: Former Q Train Relay.

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:45 am

Liability I'm sure.
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Re: Former Q Train Relay.

Postby jackintosh11 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:47 am

For what? There's nothing about the relay that's dangerous compared to normal service.
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Re: Former Q Train Relay.

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:17 pm

What happens when they don't immediately go back into service and are sitting outside the station and someone has a medical emergency? Or some crazy person decides to have a mental break and the other people in the car have no place to go? etc... You know as well as I that if either of the aforementioned scenarios transpire that some ambulance chaser lawyer will sue the TA for allowing such a situation to be possible.

Additionally it's a safety issue for crews if a deranged person rides the relay and decides it would be a dandy time to break into a cab and assault a crew member.
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