M9 Cars Design Delivery and Acceptance

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M9 Cars Design Delivery and Acceptance

Postby expbusop » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:12 am

Todays NY Post pg 56 Legal Notices MTA LIRR /MNR request for proposal No. 929 for M-9 Passenger Cars
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Re: M-8 Cars

Postby Clean Cab » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:43 am

expbusop wrote:Todays NY Post pg 56 Legal Notices MTA LIRR /MNR request for proposal No. 929 for M-9 Passenger Cars


Those are for LIRR. MN will get them a few years later.
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Re: M-8 Cars

Postby Fan Railer » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:56 pm

expbusop wrote:Todays NY Post pg 56 Legal Notices MTA LIRR /MNR request for proposal No. 929 for M-9 Passenger Cars

how many cars? 84?
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Re: M-8 Cars

Postby DutchRailnut » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:34 pm

expbusop wrote:Todays NY Post pg 56 Legal Notices MTA LIRR /MNR request for proposal No. 929 for M-9 Passenger Cars



M-9's(odd number) would be for Harlem and Hudson, not New Haven (even Number)
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Jeff Smith » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:08 pm

Apologies for the Collateral Damage cleanup. It was actually funny but non-sensical without the quotes.

I saw something on this somewhere else; I'll track it down and add. I think I've posted the RFP here before.

NH line won't need replacements for EMU's for years unless the win every lottery in every state and decide to electrify everything. The M8 fleet is big enough to replace everything AND run on SLE, freeing that fleet for NHHS.

The thing on the M9's I think is a joint proposal for both LIRR and MNRR railroads and interoperability (which would negate the need for the "a" designation for MNRR cars). What that would involve is way too early to speculate on, although current chief Lhota is making big noise on sharing equipment all across the metro area.
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Clean Cab » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:28 pm

Jeff Smith wrote:Apologies for the Collateral Damage cleanup. It was actually funny but non-sensical without the quotes.

I saw something on this somewhere else; I'll track it down and add. I think I've posted the RFP here before.

NH line won't need replacements for EMU's for years unless the win every lottery in every state and decide to electrify everything. The M8 fleet is big enough to replace everything AND run on SLE, freeing that fleet for NHHS.

The thing on the M9's I think is a joint proposal for both LIRR and MNRR railroads and interoperability (which would negate the need for the "a" designation for MNRR cars). What that would involve is way too early to speculate on, although current chief Lhota is making big noise on sharing equipment all across the metro area.


M9s are a joint deal for both LIRR and MNR. LIRR will get the majority of the cars due to them having many more M3's than MNR to replace. I don't know how many M3's LIRR has, but MNR has 142.
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:00 pm

MNR picked ACESII for their PTC,LIRR will always do something different,there will be a M-9(a)
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Clean Cab » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:49 pm

Do you mean ACSES (Advance Civil Speed Enforecment System)?
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:21 pm

I have seen it tagged as ACESII but mean it to Amtrak's version,and LIRR will find their own way to be different.
LIRR has always found a way to change the basic spec's!
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby DutchRailnut » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:33 pm

MNCR's version is already a cut back version of amtrak's ACSES, to keep it compatible LIRR won't be able to cut it back any more.
and as of M-8's its off the shelf technology that fits M-8, M7 and M7a.
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Fan Railer » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:08 pm

I'm surprised no one has posted this yet. Yes it is listed under the LIRR procurement page, but there's also an order for M9As which I wonder about, but then again, I just found it and haven't gotten around to reading the documentation yet.
http://mta.info/lirr/about/Procurement/ ... Status.htm
http://mta.info/lirr/about/Procurement/M9/Documents.htm
This will be posted on the LIRR forum, and should perhaps be (for the majority) discussed there.
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Jeff Smith » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:26 pm

I found the RFP 6; that's what led me to question the singles, doubles, powered, non, etc. But the site is a good link, thanks!

Here's the status from the above link:

M-9/M-9A Commuter Railcar ProcurementCurrent Status
Long Island Rail Road, on behalf of itself and MetroNorth Commuter Railroad, will shortly issue two simultaneous Request for Proposals for the design, manufacture, test and delivery of up to 676 M-9 and 160 M-9A commuter railcars. Contract award is expected to be made in the 4th Quarter of 2012 with delivery of the first pilot cars for testing expected in the 2nd quarter of 2016.
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby lirr42 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:09 pm

Will the manufacturer for the M9A cars for Metro-North be able to avoid the "power problems" that the M7A's have (not being able to run in trains longer than 8 cars)? Or will MNR have to keep it's 12 car sets of M3's until they completely and totally die?
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby DutchRailnut » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:03 am

on MNCR its not m-7a cars having power problems, but the railroad, upper harlem from Viginia rd to southeast was basicly constructed for max of 6 cars in 1984 and 6 minute headways.
by raising voltage from 625 to 770 volt they were able to run 8 car M series cars, now the M-7a pushed that demand up to 160% for 8 car train.
unless the sub stations are rebuild you won't see trains of over 8 cars, each train cycles on all schedules on both Hudson and Harlem.
on lower Harlem in Bronx longer trains are being operated including 10 car M-8 trains on regular basis.
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Re: M-9 Cars

Postby Jeff Smith » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:35 pm

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Application Deadline
September 18, 2012.
Compensation
Grade H Min: $79,470 / Mid: $99,338 / Max: $119,206
Opening
Playing a vital role in the economy of New York State and Connecticut, Metro-North Railroad, a subsidiary of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA), is the busiest commuter railroad in the nation with an annual ridership of over 82 million. A dynamic organization with a strong focus on customer service, safety, and new technologies, Metro-North employs approximately 5,900 people. Operating out of its home base in New York City's historic Grand Central Terminal, the railroad's three lines serve 120 stations in seven counties in New York and two counties in Connecticut. In 2011, Metro-North received the prestigious International Brunel Award for Overall Excellence in Railroad Design, recognizing its continuing work as a more efficient operation, its commitment to sustainability, and its focus on providing excellent customer service. Metro-North was the first American railroad to win this coveted award in its 26-year history. The competition is open to all passenger and freight railroads in the world. Metro-North has a reputation for rewarding employee resourcefulness and innovation, and offers excellent job opportunities in a challenging and diverse environment.
Position Objective
Provide single point of contact with LIRR, Carbuilder (and subcontractors) and Consulting Engineer to ensure that Metro-North's requirements are fulfilled with regard to the M-9 EMU procurement. Coordination of all of Metro-North's efforts in support of the M-9 program including specification development, design review, site visits and inspections, and testing.
Responsibilities
Provide project management and direction for consultants and contractors involved in the implementation of the M-9 procurement contracts.
Coordinate all efforts of Mechanical, Transportation and support departments regarding design and development of the M-9 project.
Manage and provide technical advice, guidance and supervision to Equipment Engineers.
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