Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby aem7ac921 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:50 pm

Does anyone know if a pair of M2s will survive at a museum or will they all be torched?
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:51 pm

That has been argued at length in this thread - in short, because of all the nasty things contained within...HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby khansingh » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:04 pm

If they're not safe for a museum, how were they safe for commuters?
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:44 am

As long as the material is NOT disturbed,the car is safe for use,
Removal of the material requires HAZ-MAT type procedures and disposal. VERY EXPENSIVE!
Most Museums would not have the $$$ for that to be done.
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby DutchRailnut » Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:53 am

asbestos is inside high voltage section near pantograph, as long as its inside no problem, but if car were to be donated MTA would keep being liable no matter what kind of disclaimers they have signed by museums.
if someone were to work on the car 20 years from now and get sick, MTA would get sued, as it is a known problem.
same with transformers, despite having been flushed they will always keep trace amounts of PCB's in them.
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby ant6n » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:22 pm

Can't the transformer and other electronics be removed? It's not really needed to display in a museum...
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby SEPTA Fan 235 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:04 pm

Which car numbers are in the reserve fleet? I know there are 12 pairs of M2s and a married pair of M4s.
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby DutchRailnut » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:11 am

no asbestos can not be removed , yes transformer can be removed, and no non will be donated..
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:29 pm

Fair warning: if we keep beating the donation dead horse, this thread is getting the FICX treatment.
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby Fan Railer » Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:47 am

Hearing one of the three sets has been FICXd. How many cars left now? 16?
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby Jeff Smith » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:07 pm

Per the Unofficial Metro North Facebook Page all the M6's are gone. The source was an employee newsletter:

At the stroke of midnight the last of our 48-car M6 fleet recently departed from track 6 in New Haven. The final journey began when a CSX freight locomotive pulled the seven remaining cars (nos. 9019-9069-9018-9010-9065-9061 and 9011) from the station. For three weeks, those last and final cars traveled over 500 miles before arriving at their destination, the Frontier Industrial Corp. (aka FICX) in Ashtabula, Ohio.
In service for 22 years, the entire M6 fleet had reliably served millions of our customers

The fleet of A, B and D cars (there were no C’s), was originally built by the Morrison Knudsen Company of Boise, ID, as a triplet Electric Multiple Unit (EMU, a train that consists of self-propelled carriages).

Metro-North began removing the M6 fleet from service three years ago as new M8 trains arrived to replace them.

Previously parts of our discontinued fleet have gone on to even greater service. Among them, two cars (nos. 9014 /9015) were donated to the Connecticut Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection, and another two cars (nos. 9030/9031) found a new home at the MTA Canine Training Academy in Stormville, NY where they will continue in public service for years to come.
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby Travelsonic » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:26 pm

Bye bye M6s, with your bold windows (that made them stand out from the 2s and 4s), and leaking bathroom stank that REALLY made you stand out. XD
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:55 pm

Let's not forget the obnoxious door chime that reminded me of an old video game :P
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:31 am

I have no idea who maintains the Wikipedia roster for MNRR, but it's been updated this week to move the 6's from the active roster to the "former" section. It's still showing one rostered M4 triplet and 24 M2's in the reserve fleet.
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Re: Official M2 / M4 / M6 Retirement Thread

Postby Travelsonic » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:41 pm

Two stinky quandaries I have been pondering lately:

- Whenever a consist of M2s passes by, I notice there is an odor that lingers in the air for at least a few seconds after the train has passed - what is it that I am smelling? Not a burning smell, kind of a gritty oily electrical smell.... ugh, I have no idea how to describe the smell.
- I wonder why the Morrison-Knudsen M6s seemed, to me, to have a real odor control problem where the bathrooms were concerned. I mean, yes the M2s and 4s, particualrly as they aged, weren't perfect, but comparatively, it seemed like odor control was a lot worse with the M6s.
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