WoH Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

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Re: Port Jervis Line Update

Post by MTASUPT » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:44 pm

Pt Jervis Station rehab has been completed.

The bus service does end this Friday 4/20/12

The NJT tie gang will be back in the fall.
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Re: Port Jervis Line Work

Post by blockline4180 » Wed May 09, 2012 9:16 am

It has been awhile and I have not heard any updates, but does anyone know if the new signal project and yard expansion in Port Jervis is still on for this year??

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Re: Port Jervis Line Work

Post by MNCRR9000 » Wed May 09, 2012 1:13 pm

Phase Gap wrote:Does anyone know when Metro North going to dispatch the Port Jervis Line from Grand Central Terminal like all the other MNR Lines?
Who currently dispatches the Port Jervis Line??

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Re: Port Jervis Line Work

Post by DutchRailnut » Wed May 09, 2012 8:29 pm

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Re: Port Jervis Line Work

Post by MNCRR9000 » Tue May 15, 2012 2:08 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:NJT
Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was NJT or CSX..

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Re: Port Jervis Line Work

Post by DutchRailnut » Tue May 15, 2012 7:34 pm

the tier is NS, not CSX but dispatching from Port Jervis down is handled by NJT.
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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, PJ WOH Study, Work, Status

Post by Jeff Smith » Fri May 18, 2012 12:07 pm

The "Study" continues on to the next phase.

Admin Note: found a bunch of stuff on PJ only, and stuff on Stewart. To keep the two topics separate, and since Stewart seems to be way in the future, I've kept this at PJ and put Stewart here: WOH Study - Stewart Airport

Metro-North pursues work on (Port Jervis) line
TOWN OF NEWBURGH — Metro-North will revive its study about bringing rail service to Stewart International Airport next month — but with a new twist.

The railroad has scheduled an open house for June 12, its first in two years, to update the public about the second phase of the $9.4 million study it began in concert with the Port Authority in 2008. It will be held from 4 to 8 p.m. at the Hilton Garden Inn on Route 17K.

More trains on the line

What the railroad plans to pursue instead are improvements that will be necessary to increase the frequency of service on the single-track Port Jervis line, with or without a link to the airport.

The improvements include installing a $67.6 million cab signal system, a modern safety project already in progress; building a new yard east of Salisbury Mills to store and maintain additional equipment, and adding a second track between the Moodna Viaduct in Cornwall and Sloatsburg to permit trains to move in opposite directions at the same time.

Anders said a team of Metro-North employees will review the study's results to date and then outline the next steps that will be taken to bring it to a conclusion.
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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

Post by SecaucusJunction » Fri May 18, 2012 1:23 pm

Great news for the Port Jervis Line. It looks like the cab-signal project is, indeed, happening this year... and that probably means the Port Jervis yard expansion will happen too. If they do start to build a new mid-line yard in the next few years, they will probably need new equipment for more trains. Bring back the shoreliners!
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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

Post by Jeff Smith » Fri May 18, 2012 2:29 pm

Updated MNRR pages:

http://www.mta.info/mta/planning/whrtas/
WHRTAS is being conducted in two phases. Phase I is the initial Alternatives Analysis (AA) phase, which evaluates the benefits, costs, and impacts of a broad range of transit alternatives with the potential to meet the project's goals and objectives and concludes with the recommendation of a short list of alternatives. Phase II will then further develop and evaluate the short list of alternatives and conclude the Alternatives Analysis phase with a recommended Locally Preferred Alternative.
http://www.mta.info/mta/planning/whrtas/documents.htm

http://www.mta.info/mta/planning/whrtas ... 20Anim.pdf

http://www.mta.info/mta/planning/whrtas/archive.htm

http://www.mta.info/mta/planning/whrtas/documents.htm
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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

Post by Jeff Smith » Tue May 22, 2012 3:30 pm

Transit-Oriented-Development (TOD) planned in Harriman; this could certainly feed into ridership.

http://newyorkrealestate.citybizlist.co ... -York.aspx
The Nickolai Group at Prudential Douglas Elliman has been selected as the listing agency for Woodbury Village, the 130 acre site in Harriman, NY that has been designated to be the largest transit oriented development project in the State of New York.

Woodbury Village can accommodate approximately 2 million square feet of office, retail and multifamily development. Located half a mile south of Exit 16, the site is bordered by the New York Thruway (I-87) and Conrail to the east, and Route 17M and Averill Avenue to the West & North.

The Metro-North passenger and freight rail station on site is one hour from Penn Station.
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More off peak & weekend service on the Port Jervis Line.

Post by braves » Mon May 28, 2012 9:48 am

Has anyone heard or read anything on when more off peak & weekend service will be added to the Port Jervis Line.

Any information is greatly appreciated on this board.

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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

Post by DutchRailnut » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:22 am

Metro-North Railroad for years has been studying ways to improve transit service in Orange County, and that always has included the tantalizing possibility that people one day may be able to take a train to Stewart International Airport.

That day still may come, but it won’t be soon.

When Metro-North officials host an open house on the $5.4 million study next week, they will discuss four possible new commuter bus routes, three commuter rail alignments on the Port Jervis Line and two shuttle bus services running from train stations, all of which will be evaluated further in the second phase to select a locally preferred alternative. The meeting is from 4 to 8 p.m. Tuesday at Hilton Garden Inn, 15 Crossroads Court, Newburgh.

Metro-North spokeswoman Marjorie Anders said the Stewart rail link remained a possibility and could be implemented later as passenger use increases.

Agency officials have been talking for years about building a rail link from the Salisbury Mills station to Stewart, about four miles away in New Windsor. The link could cost from $610 million to $840 million to build, and the study found direct service could provide up to 1,100 trips a day to Stewart in 2035.

---http://www.lohud.com/article/20120606/N ... ck_check=1
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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

Post by Autoblock » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:20 pm

I know this may be off topic a little and i apologize but is this line east of Port now owned buy Metro-North or is it still Norfolk Southern?

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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

Post by DutchRailnut » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:28 pm

North of Port jervis is leased by a NY state shortline, it is still owned by NS.
south of port jervis the line is leased by metro north (MTA) between Port Jervis and Suffern.
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Re: Port Jervis Line Service, Studies, Work, Status

Post by SecaucusJunction » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:36 pm

There was much talk, for a while, of an outright purchase of the line to Port Jervis by Metro North. Is that still in the works... or is it a dead issue?
I think it may be possible that NJ Transit might not be the perfect, infallible organization that most people assume it is.

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