P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby gregorygrice » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:45 am

225 was picked up by Q704 last night to be brought to Selkirk
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby gregorygrice » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:36 pm

For anyone interested, here's the link to the video I was able to get of the unit on the CSX train: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ4behiiJW8
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby fl9m2004 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:41 am

Really nice video of 225
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby lirr42 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:09 pm

A ratification will come before the combined MTA Board Metro-North/LIRR Committee Monday to authorize an amount not to exceed $700,000 for locomotive No. 225's repair. The money will be paid out of Metro-North's operating budget.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby MN-P32AC-DM-201-227 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:38 pm

Is 225 going to get a full rebuild, again? I know the trucks and body took a beating. Was the prime mover damaged as well?
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby DutchRailnut » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:01 am

probably, the engine was laying on its side and kept running for over hour, which can't be good for it.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby Train2009 » Fri May 23, 2014 4:37 pm

#220 has a new look now and was just reported moments ago tonight at MO in The Bronx in revenue service.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby deadbug » Fri May 23, 2014 4:51 pm

Train2009 wrote:#220 has a new look now and was just reported moments ago tonight at MO in The Bronx in revenue service.

i'm pretty sure you are mistaken
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby L'mont » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:05 pm

DutchRailnut wrote:probably, the engine was laying on its side and kept running for over hour, which can't be good for it.


Why wasn't the emergency engine stop activated by FDNY? Were they instructed to keep the engine running for any reason? I wasn't at this incident and I can certainly say that killing the locomotive wouldn't have been the primary focus, but I'm curious why it was left running for an hour. It's been a few years since I had rail training at the Highbridge Yard, but I do recall them talking about the fuel shut-off, ect.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:18 pm

since engine was laying on its side and button was on top, it took a while to verify third rail power was off, get ladders etc meanwhile first priority was passengers not a locomotive.
yup it always looks cool in training, in reality sh*t happens.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby FL9AC » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:35 am

P32AC-DM 222 back from Erie now to be buttoned up in Harmon before shakedowns and return to service.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby Fan Railer » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:47 am

I've recently noticed that a few units have problems taking on power when being operated from the cab car. The engineer releases the brakes and applies throttle, but the train starts rolling backwards for a few feet before the engineer has to apply brakes again and start over. Saw this at 125th and Marble Hill so far. Anyone know if this is a recent problem that's popped up since the rebuild, or if this has always been an issue? Offending units were 205 and 206.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby FL9AC » Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:34 am

They are slower initial loading from a stand still than the non-rebuilds. Even seasoned engineers have this issue sometimes.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby Steamboat Willie » Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:01 am

While each engine has its own personality along with cab cars, any decent engineer if operating from the cab car won't release the brakes and notch out the throttle, incurring a V zero hit if on a descending grade. Like FL9 said, we do have some dogs in the fleet, like the 201. A good engineer l will put the throttle into the first or second notch with some brake on to load it up. Once the engine loads they will release the brakes. You also get a smoother take off by doing it that way.
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Re: P32AC-DM Rebuild Questions

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:52 pm

A good engineer follows operating manual and puts it right in 8th notch as directed.
then releases brake but holding min brake(100 lbs brakepipe)
, letting engine shove train before going to full release.
but what heck do I know after all Genny test trains and running them from day one.
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