Amtrak to overhaul 12 CDOT P40DC's

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Amtrak to overhaul 12 CDOT P40DC's

Postby DutchRailnut » Tue May 10, 2016 6:55 pm

enjoy http://www.biznet.ct.gov/SCP_Documents/ ... osting.pdf
after all legal mambo jumbo the technical requirements start after page 72
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Tue May 10, 2016 7:20 pm

So those smokers are finally getting a big one of these affixed to the side? :wink:

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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby ATK » Wed May 11, 2016 7:10 am

Wasn't this contract suppose to have been awarded last year? Rebuilding the P40 fleet in addition to the "top deck overhaul" of the GP40's?
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby DutchRailnut » Wed May 11, 2016 7:22 am

note: it is not contract yet, just RFP (request for proposal)
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby NH2060 » Wed May 11, 2016 9:05 am

ATK wrote:Wasn't this contract suppose to have been awarded last year? Rebuilding the P40 fleet in addition to the "top deck overhaul" of the GP40's?

Well there was a different RFP put out a couple of years ago for a "top deck overhaul of 14 locomotives" presumably being the 8 P40s and 6 GP40-2H units.

Now seeing as it's for 12 units of the same model CDOT probably wanted to have a single class of diesels for maintenance purposes, etc. And with officials @ CDOT still insisting that the M-8s will be used to at least Old Saybrook in the not too distant future perhaps they figured won't need as many diesels for the Hartford Line and New London/any Westerly "pilot project" service.

Which begs the question of could it soon be time to retire the GP40s? Certainly by the time any other major expansion of service (New Milford, Waterbury-Hartford-Manchester) could happen the time will have come to replace/expand the fleet with new locomotives.
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby Stephen B. Carey » Wed May 11, 2016 9:48 am

Looking at all of the requirements for the overhaul, which I assume is normal overhaul requirements, makes me wonder how safe or comfortable these engines are right now. I saw one a couple weeks ago in Old Saybrook and it looked like it hadn't been cleaned or taken care of in a while.

Although that of course does not speak to the inside of the locomotive which I assume is much better, but the curb appeal for the average passenger is just not there. :wink:
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby jdb » Wed May 11, 2016 11:58 am

One for the GP40's
CTDOT will advertise, bid, and award a Contract for the overhaul of GP40-2H road Locomotives

http://www.biznet.ct.gov/SCP_Documents/ ... osted_.pdf
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby BandA » Wed May 11, 2016 6:40 pm

geez, those two pdf documents are photo scans. Not text searchable. I guess that makes it harder for a contractor to alter the bid documents like a certain automobile manufacturer did with a certain unit of the Wisconsin government (nothing to do with railroads), but it makes it hard to look through.
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby ATK » Thu May 12, 2016 9:03 am

NH2060 wrote:Well there was a different RFP put out a couple of years ago for a "top deck overhaul of 14 locomotives" presumably being the 8 P40s and 6 GP40-2H units.

So were there no bidders on this original RFP?
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby kitn1mcc » Thu May 12, 2016 7:10 pm

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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby Engineer Spike » Sun May 22, 2016 4:23 pm

I see that part of the specifications call for inward facing cameras. I still don't understand how candid camera is going to prevent an engineer from making a mistake. In light of the whole ConnDOT/ John Rowland George Tomasso deal, maybe we can get the legislature to pass a bill calling for inward facing cameras in all state offices.
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby DutchRailnut » Sun May 22, 2016 4:30 pm

no one ever claimed inward facing camera's would prevent anything, but it would surely prevent a s&&t show like Amtrak 188 as to what actually happened.
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby BandA » Sun May 22, 2016 9:27 pm

Those specifications are incredibly detailed. Do the vendors find that daunting? This seems closer to a remanufacture than an overhaul! Does CDOT have a good "track" record with their projects being on-time, quality & close to budget?
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby DutchRailnut » Mon May 23, 2016 7:34 am

so far ConnDOT had no overhauls, besides the purchase of 24 cans of Rustoleum Platinum Grey.
The Mafersa's basically had truck overhaul COTS and paint job by Kawasaki in Yonkers but that was it.
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Re: CDOT sends out RFP for overhaul of 12 P40DC's

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Mon May 23, 2016 8:07 am

They have a good track record purchasing secondhand rolling stock cheaply to plug gaps, but they've never hung onto any of it long enough to reach a rebuild cycle milestone. SLE's entire history of rolling stock was one of dilapidated old junk in 1990...traded-up to ever-so-slightly less dilapidated old junk in the mid-90's...traded up to lightly worn not-junk in the '00s.
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