Howard Permut Steps Down

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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by Penn Central » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:10 am

Noel Weaver wrote:Joseph Guilietti has had a lot of experience in operations. He began his career in train service around the time that Metro-North began their operations or maybe a little bit before that


Sorry Noel, but Joe Guiletti started his railroad career as a trainman with Penn Central in 1974. Metro-North didn't come around for another 9 years. I remember when he was a Transportation Superintendent with Metro-North. I remember one thing he did for me. I had a fatal accident on the Harlem Line with a young man who dove in front of my train at Croton Falls. I took two days off and Joe Guiletti signed the timeslips for me to get paid. He knew I was upset and taking two days off was not "milking it".

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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by Noel Weaver » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:10 am

Penn Central wrote:
Noel Weaver wrote:Joseph Guilietti has had a lot of experience in operations. He began his career in train service around the time that Metro-North began their operations or maybe a little bit before that


Sorry Noel, but Joe Guiletti started his railroad career as a trainman with Penn Central in 1974. Metro-North didn't come around for another 9 years. I remember when he was a Transportation Superintendent with Metro-North. I remember one thing he did for me. I had a fatal accident on the Harlem Line with a young man who dove in front of my train at Croton Falls. I took two days off and Joe Guiletti signed the timeslips for me to get paid. He knew I was upset and taking two days off was not "milking it".


Thank you for that, I couldn't remember just when he came but I thought it was well before Metro-North.
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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by NH2060 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:44 am

Permut gives his personal take on his career @ MNR:
https://www.lohud.com/article/20140115/ ... ail-career

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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by Clean Cab » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:23 pm

I don't think a lot of what happened recently on MN is all his fault. He just kept up the standard MN policy of their invincibility and to always keep their eyes on the seemingly impressive ridership numbers. While at the same time ignoring voices of warnings from the field. MN also had the poor judgment to let several well experienced supervisors leave to work with other railroads or agencies, and replace them with in house personnel who were unqualified for such jobs. Management jobs were filled more with "team players" and almost never with those that suggested taking a different path. This attitude started in the early 1990's and was encouraged along the way by MN getting high praises by organizations like APTA which fed their ego even more. It wasn't until the blizzard of January 9, 1996 that MN had the first of many failures of judgment by trying to outthink nature and ignore all the obvious warnings that a blizzard was coming and gambled on continuing to run a full schedule of trains. Needless to say it was a disasterous decision which cost MN millions in damages and the first of many public black eyes.

So to blame all of MN's recent mishaps on Howard Permut isn't completely fair. I wish his successor the best in his efforts to reform MN. He will certainly have his hands full.
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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by Noel Weaver » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:57 am

During my time with Metro-North from 1983 to 1987 they had some highly qualified officials who they did not see fit to advance to higher positions when higher positions opened up. Politics probably came in to play when these moves occurred. Stuff like this is certainally not encouraging to officials at all levels and in my opinion is not at all fair to them either. Joe Giulietti will certainally have his hands full. I read on another forum of another scandal on Metro-North concerning an operating employee. I am going to church this morning and when I return I will find that post and try to enter it here if nobody else has by then.
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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by Fishrrman » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:54 pm

Joe G. was an engineer back with Conrail and an instructor in the engineer training program in New Haven when I went through it in 1980. I believe he was a "1975 hire" on the CR District F engineer roster.

I always knew him to be a stand-up type of guy.
Great to see him in a position of real influence.

(Although I'm wondering why they passed over Sherri Herrington. Is she still there, or has she retired?)

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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by RearOfSignal » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:44 pm

Fishrrman wrote:(Although I'm wondering why they passed over Sherri Herrington. Is she still there, or has she retired?)


She got ran out/resigned whichever you prefer to believe... MTA inspector general report provides new details of executive Sherry Herrington's alleged favoritism
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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by Clean Cab » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:43 pm

Sherry Herrington left MN under very unpleasant circumstances. She is officially retired.
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Re: Howard Permut Steps Down

Post by DutchRailnut » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:01 pm

and she is part of problems MN now faces, the people she surrounded herself with, are now running the Circus .

Thank God their bringing Joe in, he should have had the job years ago..
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