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Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby typesix » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:39 pm

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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby jonnhrr » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:27 pm

Nice job by boston.com. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby BostonUrbEx » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:39 pm

The picture of "Back Bay" in 1971 is neither the Orange Line nor is it from 1971. heh.
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby BigUglyCat » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:38 pm

BostonUrbEx wrote:The picture of "Back Bay" in 1971 is neither the Orange Line nor is it from 1971. heh.

There are a few curious statements, and some slightly off-kilter English, among the captions. My eye was caught by the caption for picture 2, "the Tremont Street Subway (now Park Street Station)". Uh, well, .....
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby jonnhrr » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:00 pm

BigUglyCat wrote:
BostonUrbEx wrote:The picture of "Back Bay" in 1971 is neither the Orange Line nor is it from 1971. heh.

There are a few curious statements, and some slightly off-kilter English, among the captions. My eye was caught by the caption for picture 2, "the Tremont Street Subway (now Park Street Station)". Uh, well, .....


Maybe they were confused by the fact that the line used the Tremont St. subway for the first few years.

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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby 3rdrail » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:20 pm

boston.com wrote:The wave, estimated to have been as high as 15 feet, damaged girders of the elevated line and tipped over a train.

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I understood that a northbound el train's motorman saw the el structure buckling up ahead and applied emergency braking, stopping his train. Supposedly, the train rose up as the wave passed but did not "tip over".
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:55 pm

3rdrail wrote:
boston.com wrote:The wave, estimated to have been as high as 15 feet, damaged girders of the elevated line and tipped over a train.

RE: #7-
I understood that a northbound el train's motorman saw the el structure buckling up ahead and applied emergency braking, stopping his train. Supposedly, the train rose up as the wave passed but did not "tip over".


Yeah that should be true. I have never read anywhere of the train tipping. But for a great read, I recommend Dark Tide. Great book.
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby The EGE » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:33 am

BostonUrbEx wrote:The picture of "Back Bay" in 1971 is neither the Orange Line nor is it from 1971. heh.


Definitely looks like mainline platforms. How can you tell it's not 1971, though?
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby BostonUrbEx » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:51 am

The EGE wrote:
BostonUrbEx wrote:The picture of "Back Bay" in 1971 is neither the Orange Line nor is it from 1971. heh.


Definitely looks like mainline platforms. How can you tell it's not 1971, though?


I only looked very quickly, but I thought it looked much older.
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby 3rdrail » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:54 am

Hey ! I trained you guys better than that ! Hahaha!!! Urbey, you are partially correct that it isn't Orange or Main Line, but it might be 1971. If it is 1971 and Back Bay Station, it's the Penn Central's Back Bay Station. The Main Line didn't go into the Back Bay (neighborhood) at all. The closest that it got was Dover Street Elevated Station in the South End, about a half mile from Back Bay Station. The Main Line used a South End approach into Roxbury and Jamaica Plain completely bypassing the Back Bay. Other clues that tell us that it's railroad and not rapid transit- low level platforms, no overhead or third rail, and the sign indicating a "waiting room" at the base of the stairwell.
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby The EGE » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:19 am

It's definitely the New Haven (then Penn Central) Back Bay station. Compare with this photo from the Historic American Buildings Survey:

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It matches, right down to the taxi sign on the left.

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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby wicked » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:29 pm

3rdrail wrote:If it is 1971 and Back Bay Station, it's the Penn Central's Back Bay Station. The Main Line didn't go into the Back Bay (neighborhood) at all. The closest that it got was Dover Street Elevated Station in the South End, about a half mile from Back Bay Station. The Main Line used a South End approach into Roxbury and Jamaica Plain completely bypassing the Back Bay.


Does a map of this ROW exist? I'm trying to envision that ROW now and I can't picture it.
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby MBTA3247 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:51 pm

If you're referring to the Main Line El ROW, while there are maps out there specifically of the El, you can easily visualize most of it by just following Washington St on Google Maps.
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby wicked » Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:31 pm

Oops, got confused for a second and thought he was referring to a railroad right of way through the South End near Dover, which was making me scratch my head. Not thinking too well this late at night ...
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Re: Orange Line 111th Anniversary Photos

Postby 3rdrail » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:50 am

I think that he might be talking about the RR line coming into Back Bay Station, Derek. Here's NH and B&A's through part of the Back Bay and South End-
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