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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Arborwayfan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:38 pm

At some point in the late 80s or 90s I was in Cleveland Circle and noticed that the connection from the outbound track to the Chestnut Hill tracks had no catenary. Later I noticed that it had gotten new wire. I don't remember anything more precise than that, but it seems that track has been out of service and restored to service before.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Arborwayfan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:47 pm

By the way, why does the track from the yard across Cleveland Circle take that funny curve to the NE (or whatever compass direction inbound is) instead of heading straight across the intersection? I remember watching trains clanging their bells to get cars to move because the trains had to cut across the Beacon Street traffic that was stopped at the light when the light was green for the trains.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Gerry6309 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:45 am

Arborwayfan wrote:By the way, why does the track from the yard across Cleveland Circle take that funny curve to the NE (or whatever compass direction inbound is) instead of heading straight across the intersection? I remember watching trains clanging their bells to get cars to move because the trains had to cut across the Beacon Street traffic that was stopped at the light when the light was green for the trains.


You are looking at an artifact from when Cleveland Circle really was a circle! The tracks actually followed the rotary. I am not sure when the southbound track was straightened out, but it is before my memory.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby MBTA1016 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:17 pm

If you look at Cleveland circle from an areial view you can still see that it was once an actual circle. Part of it's used for a parking lot now.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Teamdriver » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:57 am

Cleveland Circle, April 28, 1948.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby MBTA1016 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:06 pm

Teamdriver is that the parkinglot on the southwest side of Cleveland circle(once was a circle)?
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Teamdriver » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:49 am

M.,
No I dont think so. That area in the picture> Was where they straightened out Chestnut Hill Ave, and added a median between the directions of travel. The parking lot I think you mean is on the perimeter of the ball fields to the southwest , +/- ,although I am not absolutely clear if it was there in 1960, when the picture was taken. And my memory just places the movie house and Howard Johnsons, the rest of the details negated by the ice cream cone from HoJo,s!
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Gerry6309 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:20 am

Nice pictures, guys!

The first one posted shows the actual construction at the time the circle was removed.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby MBTA1016 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:55 pm

Teamdriver, the parkinglot I'm referencing is next to the ballfields at Cassidy park. On the the southwest side of the Cleveland circle.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Arborwayfan » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:58 am

Thanks for the answers!

Has any scheduled revenue service (I'm mostly imagining short-term detours during construction and such) ever run to Lake St. via Highland Branch? It would be possible without changing ends in either direction.

What about Riverside via Beacon St, which would require changing ends?
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Teamdriver » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:06 pm

Yes I know that the parking lot is there now, but not sure if it was there in 1960 when the rotary was there. Is that the answer to your question, not sure what you want to know ?
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby MBTA1016 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:24 pm

I was wondering if the parkinglot you see in the pictures linked is the same parkinglot today or another one?
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby SM89 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:48 pm

try looking at historicaerials.com. I was surprised that it was converted from a circle so early on.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Teamdriver » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:08 pm

When there was the rotary there, i dont think there would be room there for a parking lot , but not sure.
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Re: Chestnut Hill Ave Tracks

Postby Gerry6309 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:30 pm

Arborwayfan wrote:Thanks for the answers!

Has any scheduled revenue service (I'm mostly imagining short-term detours during construction and such) ever run to Lake St. via Highland Branch? It would be possible without changing ends in either direction.

What about Riverside via Beacon St, which would require changing ends?


The major problem is that there is little market for express service from Lake St. to Downtown. The area of Brighton between Chestnut Hill Av. and Packards is the origin point for most riders on the B. The most common commute involving Lake St. and Downtown is the reverse one, and a diversion via Beacon provides a faster ride than the normal route. The MBTA still spends a fortune busing the remainder of the B.

D service via Beacon was run during one diversion, they have bused since. They almost never terminate D runs at Reservoir, even though they can!
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