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Re: Brighton new CR station for New Balance

Postby Teamdriver » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:01 pm

jaymac wrote:Unfortunately, it looks a bit too far to the west for derepurposing of the Allston Depot, a long-ago memory of which includes supper burgers with D&H Alcos hauling NH coaches and shaking the windows

Jman, here's a long-ago Allston Depot memory, (not to be confused with its cousin ,Brighton depot ) From :
http://www.bahistory.org/AllstonDepot.htm
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Re: Brighton new CR station for New Balance

Postby jaymac » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:04 pm

Anyone tempted towards vegetarianism might want to search "Brighton Abattoir" to see how things were in the not-so-good old days. It might have made some very small bit of sense to site a slaughter-house on the banks of the Charles before the dam was put in so the tide might carry the offal out to sea -- eventually. I had heard about it, but seeing pictures and maps makes me glad I'm here now instead of there then.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby Teamdriver » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:53 am

Balance-ing act in Brighton Sneaker co. HQ may bring rail st !

'' New Balance has offered to help pay for a new commuter rail station in Brighton to serve a bustling new complex of offices, shops, restaurants, hotel and ice rink next to the sneaker maker’s headquarters.''

http://bostonherald.com/business/genera ... position=5
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby diburning » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:13 pm

Great... Will the CR only stop there for half their trips like the Newton stops? It would be a very convenient place for me to get off the commuter...

But the question remains.... where will they put it?
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby SM89 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:53 pm

diburning wrote:But the question remains.... where will they put it?


the article says that New Balance will support an Everett Street stop. I wonder if only that location?
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Re: Brighton new CR station for New Balance

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:36 pm

jaymac wrote:Anyone tempted towards vegetarianism might want to search "Brighton Abattoir" to see how things were in the not-so-good old days. It might have made some very small bit of sense to site a slaughter-house on the banks of the Charles before the dam was put in so the tide might carry the offal out to sea -- eventually. I had heard about it, but seeing pictures and maps makes me glad I'm here now instead of there then.

New York's meat industry on the early 20th century was located on the East River in Midtown, at the present site of the United Nations.

But if you really want to learn more about the meatpacking industry of a century ago, read The Jungle.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby diburning » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:55 pm

SM89 wrote:
diburning wrote:But the question remains.... where will they put it?


the article says that New Balance will support an Everett Street stop. I wonder if only that location?


If it's Everett st, then behind Stop and Shop is pretty much the only place to put it. The other side of Everett st is all buildings abutting the ROW.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby Matthew » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:34 pm

Michael Moran, Kevin Honan, and Mark Ciommo stopped by a BRA meeting today to announce that the Brighton Landing station will be going ahead with the support of New Balance. It will be at Everett Street and extend west.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby The EGE » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:37 pm

Globe story.

Looks like New Balance is going to be paying the entire thing:
Elected leaders representing the Allston-Brighton area announced Wednesday night that the state and New Balance have agreed to build a long-awaited commuter rail station in conjunction with the shoe company’s proposed $500 million development there.

New Balance would fund all permitting, design, construction and annual maintenance costs, a company official said. It was not clear whether any public funding would be involved in building the station.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby diburning » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:24 am

Funny how I posted this 4 years ago as a "what if" and I'm actually getting to see it come to life. (Correction to what I posted about the Brighton Station, the location on Newton St was actually Faneuil Depot, another former stop on the B&A, not Brighton. The Brighton Station is where WGBH stands now)

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atsf sp wrote:Would this have to do with the proposed station by WGBH studios in Brighton right after Beacon Park?


hmm, that would be convenient as I live a walking distance away from it, but it would make more sense to build the station behind stop and shop where there might have been a station at some point (theres also remnants of two industrial sidings that have been cut from the main. The main doesn't have a switch anymore for those sidings). Or it would be even nicer to have a station where the old Brighton station used to be, but it is long gone, demolished when the pike was built. (theres still a mural of it under the pike bridge on Newton st)

Theres also the old Allston station which is now the Sports Depot Restaurant. Outside of the restaurant is an old caboose (which mysteriously is still sitting on its trucks!) that I think they use for a bar. Of course that station can't be redone. Plus, it's too close to beacon park. But a Brighton station behind Stop and Shop will definitely work.

Here's the area near stop and shop that can accomodate a station:

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Here it is in relation to everything else.

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Red = Station
Blue = WGBH Building
Green = Beacon Park

(John, if this post is taking this thread too far off topic, can you move this post to the appropriate thread please? I couldn't find a topic on this subject. Thanks)
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby Teamdriver » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:25 am

Here is story on Mass.gov site :


June 07, 2012
MassDOT, New Balance Announce Brighton Station
MassDOT Secretary and CEO Richard A. Davey and New Balance Chairman James S. Davis today announced agreement in a co-signed Letter of Intent to build a new Worcester Line commuter rail station at Everett Street in Brighton.

The station, called New Brighton Landing, will serve the general public in the Allston-Brighton area of Boston and New Balance’s New Brighton Landing development including a New Balance world headquarters, additional office building, hotel, sports complex, and retail space.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby The EGE » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:38 pm

I think Brighton badly needs this station, and I think overall it's good for the line. But it's going to make a lot of people unhappy - either they only serve it on trains that are already locals inside 128 (and Brighton only gets partial service), or they stop most trains (and slow down passengers from further out). Hopefully, once the station is in service (and Beacon Park is no longer a bottleneck) we'll see more inner-belt locals. Perhaps we'll see some short-turns at Natick so as to avoid grade crossings at Natick.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby Komarovsky » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:29 pm

Hopefully they will allow the Worcester express trains to bypass this stop along with the rebuilt Yawkey. Once beacon park is replacedwith the new yard in Worcester, it might be a good idea to cut back the expresses to framingham and then run frequent locals between framingham and Boston. That way service improves for the west of framingham crowd with respect to travel time and the people who get on east of Framingham get more frequent service.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby TrainManTy » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:45 pm

The EGE wrote:I think Brighton badly needs this station, and I think overall it's good for the line. But it's going to make a lot of people unhappy - either they only serve it on trains that are already locals inside 128 (and Brighton only gets partial service), or they stop most trains (and slow down passengers from further out). Hopefully, once the station is in service (and Beacon Park is no longer a bottleneck) we'll see more inner-belt locals. Perhaps we'll see some short-turns at Natick so as to avoid grade crossings at Natick.


The trip on local trains from Worcester are already long enough at an hour and a half. I would guess (hope?) that once CSX moves out and line capacity is no longer an issue, trains will be rescheduled so that Worcester trains run express to West Natick and only Framingham/West Natick trains make all local stops. Off-peak trains would continue to run as all-stops Worcester locals, but during rush hour these epic Worcester-Boston locals are split into two different trains.

If the scheduling and dispatching is done right, express trains should be able to scoot around the local trains with ease. Once Beacon Park Yard is gone, the entire line will be double-track Rule 261 territory with plenty of crossovers.

As for Framingham VS West Natick, both stations are tied with Worcester for the busiest stations on the line at around 1000 daily inbound boardings. Natick, one stop east, has about 700 daily boardings. Framingham has two grade crossings just east of the station, the eastern-most ones on the line, which could pose a problem for increased train traffic. But I digress, as this issue is off-topic.
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Re: New CR Station for New Balance in Brighton

Postby Arlington » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:57 pm

Here's a nice set of renderings (I start on page 11 because it has a map to get oriented, but it loops back around)
http://www.boston.com/yourtown/boston/a ... lans?pg=11
It looks to me like they're thinking the station is a single side platform since I see no ADA "bridge" to any island
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