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Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby BowdoinStation » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:10 pm

In today's Globe, there was an article written about approved monies to:
1) Demolish the current Orient Heights station, and build a new station from scratch.
2) Renovate Goverment Center for both the Green and Blue Lines
3) Build the Assembly Square station on the Orange Line
4) Pull the plug for good on (sigh) Bowdoin Station after the Goverment Center redo.

Overall it was a well written article, and worth a look at bostonglobe.com..
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby jr145 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:45 pm

Did they give a timeline for Orient Heights?
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby BostonUrbEx » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:29 am

As I recently said yesterday on a different forum, Bowdoin has seen numerous threats of closing after numerous other events, but she's still here. Trains still have to turn around at Bowdoin, so I'm not so sure it would close. And if it does, they'd be foolish not to build a new one a block or two west when they eventually build the MGH extension.
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby The EGE » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:10 am

The news came up on the official state transportation blog as well. I was very disappointed to realize that I recognize that image from Flickr, because the image is presented there with a licence that allows reuse - but only if the author is credited. MassDOT didn't seem to have a problem with claiming the image as their own.

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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby boblothrope » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:10 pm

BowdoinStation wrote:In today's Globe, there was an article written about approved monies to:
1) Demolish the current Orient Heights station, and build a new station from scratch.


What exactly is wrong with Orient Heights?

http://transportation.blog.state.ma.us/ ... ances.html says the new station will be fully accessible to all passengers. But the existing station is already accessible to people with disabilities, according to the subway map.

http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-06/n ... e-red-line says there's some crumbling concrete, and implies there are no escalators. Are those the only problems?

It's too bad train stations around here have to be totally demolished and rebuilt after just 60 years. In other parts of the world, they last much longer.
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby The EGE » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:17 pm

Good to see that Assembly Square will be weekend diversions and not full line closure, as had been hinted at elsewhere.

Orient Heights really does need a lot of work. I'm planning to head up there next week to take a few pictures and to see that old map for myself.
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby BowdoinStation » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:35 pm

Orient Heights Station is very outdated, and the only station on the Blue Line that has never received an update, refit, or remodel upon it's opening in the early 1950's. The quotes in the Globe from Orient Heights users was humerous, though was waiting for an "icky or gross" quote. The station is a dump, smells bad, and long overdue for both the riders and Blue Line staff that start and end there.

The word is that Gov't Center will be totally shut down with State and Bowdoin stations picking up the slack on the Blue Line. It appears, the MBTA did not want to have a long drawn out and over-budget project like how State Street turned into. Think of the health benefits Blue Line riders will have with the extra walks to navigate the Gov't Center closure.

Once the new Gov't Center is open, and it seems there will be a new entrance not too far from Bowdoin's entrances, it's "Bye Bye Bowdoin".. Bowdoin Station still has a very good and classic look it it..

Read the article..
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby MBTA3247 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:03 pm

boblothrope wrote:
BowdoinStation wrote:In today's Globe, there was an article written about approved monies to:
1) Demolish the current Orient Heights station, and build a new station from scratch.


What exactly is wrong with Orient Heights?

http://transportation.blog.state.ma.us/ ... ances.html says the new station will be fully accessible to all passengers. But the existing station is already accessible to people with disabilities, according to the subway map.

http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-06/n ... e-red-line says there's some crumbling concrete, and implies there are no escalators. Are those the only problems?

It's too bad train stations around here have to be totally demolished and rebuilt after just 60 years. In other parts of the world, they last much longer.

Orient Heights is only handicap accessible if you don't want to go from one side to the other. There's no elevators up to the crossover bridge - you have to walk/shuffle/roll out of the station and cross the tracks on Saratoga Street.

Like others have said, the station is also just old and worn out. The crossover bridge is especially uninviting.
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:33 pm

As a daily user now of Orient Heights, the only thing I will miss is that classic font "ORIENT HEIGHTS" is scrolled out above the station.

Does anyone know what font is used?
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby Charliemta » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:14 pm

I hope they save and reinstall the Orient Heights lettering shown in the photo. That is special, capturing the spirit and look of the 1950's.
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby BigUglyCat » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:20 pm

Adams_Umass_Boston wrote:As a daily user now of Orient Heights, the only thing I will miss is that classic font "ORIENT HEIGHTS" is scrolled out above the station.

Does anyone know what font is used?

Send the pic to Kevin Walsh (kevin@forgotten-ny.com). He has a lot of experience with typography and is a serious fan of fonts.
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby StevieC48 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:02 pm

Reguarding the Orient Heights renovation. since Orient Hts is the swing on and swing off of train crews as well as their lobby to relax between trips or sit if the person is on cover. Where will they move the operators lobby, where will the train starter operate from? Will they move him or her to Wonderland or Sufflok Downs since it is closer to the yard to sign in employees for theior trips etc. Anyone know what will happen to the Train Starter, crew lobby etc?? Courious to see the out come.
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby boblothrope » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:44 pm

MBTA3247 wrote:
boblothrope wrote:http://transportation.blog.state.ma.us/blog/2011/10/blue-line-orient-heights-station-projects-advances.html says the new station will be fully accessible to all passengers. But the existing station is already accessible to people with disabilities, according to the subway map.

Orient Heights is only handicap accessible if you don't want to go from one side to the other. There's no elevators up to the crossover bridge - you have to walk/shuffle/roll out of the station and cross the tracks on Saratoga Street.


Thanks. That's exactly the type of accessibility information that *should* be at http://www.mbta.com/schedules_and_maps/ ... opId=13119 , but isn't.

For an even bigger accessibility information problem, see Downtown Crossing. Transferring between the Red and Orange Lines requires using Park Street at the Winter Street passage if you're using the Forest Hills train, and leaving and re-entering the paid area (using an intercom to get buzzed in after hours) if you're using the Oak Grove train. Not only is this not listed on the station's web page, but it's not posted on signs in the station either. The only place you can find this information is in http://www.mbta.com/uploadedFiles/docum ... geline.pdf .
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby djimpact1 » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:43 am

I figured this would be best-suited here, on the topic of renovations...

Courtesy of the Mass DOT:

MBTA, East Boston Tunnel Sign Reinstalled, Blue Line State Street Station, October 18, 2011

As part of the Blue Line modernization project, workers have restored the 1904 plaque that marked the completion of the world's first subway to run underneath a section of ocean water. The plaque today was returned to the wall along the outbound Blue Line platform at State Station.

The "East Boston Tunnel" was initially designed to carry streetcars, and ran from Maverick to Court Street via State.

In 1906, Atlantic Station (now Aquarium) was opened. In 1916, the terminus at Court Street was moved to Bowdoin, and the Scollay Square station (now Government Center).
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Re: Globe Article on upcoming station renovations..

Postby Teamdriver » Sat May 19, 2012 5:32 pm

Orient Heights station picture, from : http://www.universalhub.com/2012/disori ... ast-boston 5.19.12
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