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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby MBTA1016 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:52 pm

Thanks frrc.
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby jboutiet » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:00 pm

frrc wrote:ROMAR is moving it's operations to Hopedale, on the Grafton and Upton. Freight will be off loaded at Hopedale, and trucked to Boston and other locations. They estimate around 60 truck loads per day in/out of Hopedale. Operations are planned to be in place by October 2012. Should make traffic on the MA pike more interesting :(

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That's something like one additional truck every 10 minutes. Not really a traffic impact.
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby diburning » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:11 am

frrc wrote:
diburning wrote:Beacon Park still has, and probably will still have two freight customers after it closes. Houghton Chemical, which receives tank cars, located on the southeastern end of the yard over by the engine pit, and Romar Transportation, which receives hi-cube box cars at the building, and centerbeam flats in the parking lot, located east of the yard, accessed by a branch that begins on the northwestern end of the yard. Romar Transportation also receives containers unloaded at Beacon Park, which after the closure of Beacon Park would probably have them trucked from Westboro or Worcester.


ROMAR is moving it's operations to Hopedale, on the Grafton and Upton. Freight will be off loaded at Hopedale, and trucked to Boston and other locations. They estimate around 60 truck loads per day in/out of Hopedale. Operations are planned to be in place by October 2012. Should make traffic on the MA pike more interesting :(

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Romar only gets 2-3 cars max a day anyway so the G+U won't get much of an upswing in traffic. I'm assuming Romar's intermodal service will be unloaded and trucked out of Worcester?
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby jamesinclair » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:02 pm

Any news when the expanded schedule comes out?
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby dbperry » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:11 pm

P527, the 5:35 PM departure from South Station, now makes an annoying stop at Wellesley Hills (it (or the evening express) used to be express to West Natick, way back in the day; since April, it was express to Natick). None of the conductors know why (or they won't say). I'm guessing it has something to do with the at-grade pedestrian crossing - is the thought that making the train stop there makes the crossing safer? Anybody know what's up with this schedule change? It was implemented ~early August, I think.

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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:45 am

dbperry wrote:P527, the 5:35 PM departure from South Station, now makes an annoying stop at Wellesley Hills (it (or the evening express) used to be express to West Natick, way back in the day; since April, it was express to Natick). None of the conductors know why (or they won't say). I'm guessing it has something to do with the at-grade pedestrian crossing - is the thought that making the train stop there makes the crossing safer? Anybody know what's up with this schedule change? It was implemented ~early August, I think.

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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby Komarovsky » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:15 am

In the past week I've noticed some new speed restrictions on the line. There is now a 5mph restriction in the Worcester yard, and a 15mph restriction going through Natick. I don't see any work crews at Natick and the work being done at Worcester is on the freight yard portion, fairly far from the main line tracks. Anyone know the official reason for these new restrictions?
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby Backshophoss » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:35 pm

Possibly some "parting gifts" from CSX,MBCR is now maintaning the ROW and signals since Oct 2,with CSX still
dispatching the route untill the CP's can be "cut over" to MBCR control.
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby CSX Conductor » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:52 pm

Komarovsky wrote:In the past week I've noticed some new speed restrictions on the line. There is now a 5mph restriction in the Worcester yard, and a 15mph restriction going through Natick. I don't see any work crews at Natick and the work being done at Worcester is on the freight yard portion, fairly far from the main line tracks. Anyone know the official reason for these new restrictions?

After trackwork is done speed restrictions are usually left in place until a certain amount of tonnage has passed over the affected track.
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby dbperry » Mon May 16, 2016 2:52 pm

Posting this here instead of starting a new thread.

Recently updated my blog with the story behind the reason that outbound rush hour afternoon trains run "wrong track" between Wellesley Farms and West Natick.

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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby WatertownCarBarn » Mon May 16, 2016 8:16 pm

Are those old ties going to be picked up, or are they rot in place, like some places?
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby johnpbarlow » Tue May 17, 2016 4:26 am

WatertownCarBarn wrote:Are those old ties going to be picked up, or are they rot in place, like some places?


Are you referring to Pan Am where rotting ties help anchor the ballast along the Downeaster RoW? :wink:
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby WatertownCarBarn » Tue May 17, 2016 12:41 pm

Yup!
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby Komarovsky » Tue May 24, 2016 5:44 pm

I mentioned the track work speed restrictions in the delays thread but I figured we could have a more in depth discussion here.

Today there are 2 big speed restrictions on the Worcester line, one between the Weston switch and Framingham on track two and one between Framingham and Southboro just past the station.

The Framingham->Southboro one seems to be a remnant of the tie replacement, but for about a week it went away from Ashland to Southboro after they reballasted and tamped and now it's back and longer than before!

The Weston -> Framingham makes less sense to me. IIRC the tie replacement is only for track 1, so why have a restriction on track 2 suddenly?
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Re: Framingham/Worcester Line Questions

Postby nomis » Tue May 24, 2016 8:44 pm

I believe you are mixing up [or being told in simple terms on the intercom] signal restrictions with speed restrictions between CP 11 & CP 21 ... There is a nightly congo line occurring on track 2 for rush hour, as well as an artifical bottleneck at CP 22 - CP 24 as the 4th Iron is barricaded with MOW equipment.
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