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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:08 pm

Why did MBTA train 811 (215 dept.) from South Station go all the way to Providence today?


Attleboro/Stoughton Line:
Outbound South Attleboro train #811 (2:15 PM) will terminate at Providence instead of South Attleboro. This will cause inbound South Attleboro train #818 (3:25 PM) to run 15 minutes behind schedule.

All other Commuter Rail service is on or near schedule.
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:39 pm

Don't know why, but maybe increased passenger demand?

Maybe they should ALL end at Providence eventually :-)
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:06 am

yea, i agree
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:18 pm

Yes, and it would provide more flexibility for those wanting to go to the Providence Place Mall, especially during the Christmas shopping season. Hopefully, the MBTA may want to extend select South Attleboro trains to Providence to accomodate would-be shoppers.
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Postby ST214 » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:06 pm

Maybe the crossover was malfunctioning??

They all might as well go to Providence, especially on the weekends, when they go to providence station to await the inbound trip. I just don't see why they don't do it. Before, with Amtrak running the service, i could understand, but if you're going there anyway, why not collect some revenue??
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:08 pm

I agree with you. Definitely. They SHOULD go all the way to Providence, that is, 100% MBCR service from BOS-PVD 7 days per week, including holidays.

Maybe we should write to the top about this...
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Postby ST214 » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:29 pm

It makes me really pissed that they go dwon there anyway to await the inbound trip, and they're not hauling pax. The ridership is there, just look at the platform when a northbound Regional comes in.
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Postby CSX Conductor » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:02 pm

Most likelyy it tan to PVD because many people would be leaving work early for Thanksgiving.. :wink:
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:32 pm

that is what i figured after i posted the message
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:33 am

It makes me really pissed that they go dwon there anyway to await the inbound trip, and they're not hauling pax. The ridership is there, just look at the platform when a northbound Regional comes in.

Yeah me too, I don't like it when for example, you're at Providence hoping to go back to Boston on Saturday, and you see an MBCR crew going up to the mezzanine area at PVD and when you ask to "hitch a ride" on the T train, they say to you, "we're not allowed to do that". That's one of many reasons to go Providence all 7 days a week, 365/66 days a year.
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Postby CSX Conductor » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:19 am

When trains go all the way to PVD on the weekends it is usually to get them out of the way. By turning at South Attleboro or State Line it reduces the MainLine Dispatcher to only having one track to work with as opposed to two. It is only done when there will be a problem with congestion, and by not being scheduled to PVD the trains can be turned at S.Attleboro if there is not alot of traffic.



BTW, there are only 364 &1/4 days in a year. :P Just kidding
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Postby octr202 » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:42 pm

Robert Paniagua wrote:It makes me really pissed that they go dwon there anyway to await the inbound trip, and they're not hauling pax. The ridership is there, just look at the platform when a northbound Regional comes in.

Yeah me too, I don't like it when for example, you're at Providence hoping to go back to Boston on Saturday, and you see an MBCR crew going up to the mezzanine area at PVD and when you ask to "hitch a ride" on the T train, they say to you, "we're not allowed to do that". That's one of many reasons to go Providence all 7 days a week, 365/66 days a year.


Unfortunately, its all up to RIDOT. MBTA/MBCR could make life miserable for themselves if they decided to carry riders in/out of PVD on the weekends -- they'd be operating a public service for which they receive no subisdy, but would now be held to a public schedule. Who even knows what kind of bovine-generated waste product could hit the fan if they put those runs on the schedule, and then tried to take them out later. Maybe people seeing the trians in Providence but not being able to ride them would spark interest, but I'm sure that's being too optimistic.
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:47 pm

they should at least do it to 2 trains on the weekends
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:11 am

You're right, Matt. 2 trains for now should do.
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:09 pm

the MBTA should do a experiment for 2 weekends in which the operate two trains to Providence, see how many passengers use it and then go from there if it is worth putting that service in
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