Orange Line Cars (Old and Tired)

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Orange Line Cars (Old and Tired)

Postby Ed Canney » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:41 pm

Riding in on the Orange line this morning I could not help but think that these cars on the line look old and tired. Does anyone have any idea when the MBTA might replace these cars with new ones? Thanks
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Postby BC Eagle » Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:10 pm

I think this came up in an old thread regarding the replacement of the Blue Line cars. I believe someone said they're slated to be replaced in 2009. I'm not sure about this though...
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:40 pm

Probably not till about the same time the Red Line's 015/1600s get yanked off line too, which won't be for another decade from now............

although these units (01200s, 015/01600s) are rolling just fine with me, all they are doing to keep them in tip top shape is replacing critical components to them so that they can run and last longer.

i have no problem riding on them, as long as they keep me moving.
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Postby bierhere » Tue Nov 23, 2004 7:59 pm

According to the CIPS for 2005-2010 ( http://www.mbta.com/insidethet/capital.asp), there are no current plans to replace Orange Line cars. The current CIP proposes a rebuild of the cars mostly during 2005-2007 costing about 15 million dollars.

Replacement of the Orange line cars is considered a future project which means beyond 2010, if the MBTA adheres to the CIP or makes no changes to it.
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Postby AEM7AC920 » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:58 pm

They seem fine to me, I actually got on a clean set the other day with one car that had a nice waxed floor.
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Postby typesix » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:47 pm

The Orange line cars only started running in 1981 and rail transit equipment normally have 30 year life expectancies.
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Postby 7 Train » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:42 pm

I have noticed severe corrosion on some of the 01200 series cars. I heard from various sources that the cars have a flaw that has the rust seep outwards. They are 23/24 years old (built 1980-81) and should last another decade.
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:20 am

Yeah even though the Orange doesn't run near water, they still seem to gather rust and corrosion just like the Blue Line cars. However, the Red Line 015/01600s though don't gather any such rust/corrosion. Although the Red Line cars were built in 1969-70, they MAY go for another mid-life overhaul, and expected to run at least another decade also.
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Postby jrc520 » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:42 am

aren't the 15-1600 series made with Aluminum?
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Postby ST214 » Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:26 pm

I think they are.

I wiuld like to know if maybe, since the 1200's, are rusting like the blue line cars, if it is a metal defect, and not the salt breeze.
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Postby typesix » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:09 pm

Yes, the 01500s and 01600s are aluminum cars.
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Postby 7 Train » Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:41 pm

What type of car body material are the 0600/01200s made of? It appears to be low alloy steel (carbon based).
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Postby StevieC48 » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:01 pm

Corten Steel was what was used
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:38 am

Yes, the 01500s and 01600s are aluminum cars.

And not to mention the UTDC 01700s were made with the same aluminum material the 16s were made of, but the 01400s were made of regular plastic while the Bombardier 01800s were made of stainless steel of course.
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Postby typesix » Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:49 pm

You likely meant to say the 01400s were Corten steel with two cars having the plastic ends.
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