3rdrail wrote:FP10 wrote:Just from being in there I would say the air quality at Back Bay is far worse then the Harvard "yellow train" tunnel. Ive spent a decent amount of time waiting in there and haven't noticed any obvious diesel fumes. Then again the real problem is CO2, which of course is odorless so that may still be an issue. Perhaps the tunnel is constructed in such a way that it naturally ventilates?
I agree with you about Back Bay. I actually was thinking about Back Bay when I wrote the post and was going to mention it but didn't as the fumes come from a different source, and a source which it was supposedly designed to accomodate, unlike Harvard. Actually, there was much controversy about Back Bay's air a few years ago and supposedly, work was done to try to alleviate some of the fumes, but I've been in there recently and it still can get quite dense. I will say however, that prior to the work that they did with the ventilation, it was worse. A train would come in and the place was like a house on fire.
The Harvard tunnel intrigues me however as I doubt if it was designed to ventilate much more than what humans produce for carbon dioxide (CO2). The carbon monoxide (CO) coming out of tail pipes is another matter. Somebody must have an idea when buses first got down there. I don't think that I've ever even seen a photo of a bus in the tunnel prior to MBTA.
Cltmotorman wrote:to Wickedpissah - Those are great pictures though I can't recall blue tiles. This is around the 1960's right? In the second picture how could one see both sides of Harvard Station? I thought the stations were on top of each other. !
Cltmotorman wrote:to Wickedpissah - Those are great pictures though I can't recall blue tiles. This is around the 1960's right? In the second picture how could one see both sides of Harvard Station? I thought the stations were on top of each other. I guess BSRA can do a special article on this with 3D diagrams unless you have them? As a fun project, I would love to do a HO scale of Harvard station (architecturally speaking- The HO tracks can be added later), but I really could use blueprints of Harvard station and the adjoining TT/busway area.
GP40MC 1116 wrote:diburning wrote:I'd be terrified standing so close to the third rail.
He isn't really... Try walking down the ROW with the power on.
Cltmotorman wrote:... I would love to see the track & station layouts. email me if you wish. Thanks!
jonnhrr wrote:Originally, coming out of the alley they could either go straight ahead into the Harvard station subway, or could head right on Mt. Auburn St. into the square. I think the latter connection was for the Harvard - Mass station service via Mass. Ave and the Harvard bridge, which ended in the 1949 when the Harvard bridge was rebuilt. (This is from Bradley Clarke's book on Boston streetcars in the 1940's).
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Adams_Umass_Boston wrote:Hello Gerry,
I only see one photo of a Santa on a PCC. There might me an issues with your Flickr account.
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Cltmotorman wrote:Hi all,
Last September, I went to the Cambridge Historical Commission and photographed pictures of the old Harvard station that were originally made by Frank Cheney. All of the underground Harvard Station pictures are credited to Frank Cheney and not me. I have made comments under most of the pictures and would love it if you can pass along your comments and corrections.
My hat's off to Frank for taking these great pics.
Enjoy!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gmac99/
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