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Postby Porter Sq » Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:14 pm

Since the Blue Line will be getting new cars soon I decided to start a new thread so people can write about them.I rode 638 GC to Revere Beach and Back.Rode the last car on the way out window open and rode the same car on the way back in.
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:33 pm

the blue line cars arent' that old, are they? i don;t think they need to be replaced, what kind of problems are there?
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Postby ST214 » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:28 pm

One word-RUST. Since tehy are so close to the ocean, they get the salt breeze. THis has damaged the cars. 2 were rebuilt to see if it was feasable to rebuild 18 for Orange Line service, but tehre was way too much rust.
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Postby AEM7AC920 » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:35 pm

The cars are at least 20 plus old and some are badly corroded just look at the carbodies. I think it was smart not to rebuild the cars for the orange line the electrical stuff would have to be pulled especially from the roofs and the carbodies would need some fine tuning in terms of length and height.
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Postby efin98 » Wed Nov 17, 2004 1:22 am

The Blue Line cars are 25 years old, will be about 30 by the time the last cars are retired. Considering their construction and the amount of service they put in, they earned their retirement.

They are nice and all, but new cars are needed for the Blue Line.
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:16 am

Yes, you're right, Ed. They need to be retired, but that won't be till next year or two years from now.
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:29 pm

oh ok, i never thought about that salt sea breeze before
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:08 am

I know, since they go so close to the water, hopefully the next car order will be rust-resistant, especially if it's stainless steel.
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:27 pm

yea i hope so, because it would be a big waste of money to buy new cars that get destroyed because of the sea breeze again
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Postby CRail » Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:47 pm

you know T mgt, the new cars will rust and break down in , o lets see, a week. things like this just dont get taken into consideration like they should.
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Postby apodino » Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:20 pm

Stumbled across this page on a google search. Its a link to a siemens page that gives all the technical specs of the new blue line cars.

Technical specs for new blue line cars
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Postby WonderlandMan » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:35 pm

Anywhere to get good pictures of the new trains?
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Postby fm535 » Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:08 pm

CRail wrote:you know T mgt, the new cars will rust and break down in , o lets see, a week. things like this just dont get taken into consideration like they should.




The new Siemens car bodies are stainless steel. Like the Reddy's(01800's) , its gonna take a lot to rust those babies out! And the Reddy's have been traveling along ocean front property for a few years now and when they are clean, they look pretty good!
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Postby 7 Train » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:17 am

The 0600 cars date from 1978-79 and are over 25 years old. They are also rusted and worn.

Why do both the 0600 (Blue) and 01200 (Orange) cars suffer more corrossion than other cars?
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:13 am

The new Siemens car bodies are stainless steel. Like the Reddy's(01800's) , its gonna take a lot to rust those babies out! And the Reddy's have been traveling along ocean front property for a few years now and when they are clean, they look pretty good!

Actually they run a bit further away from the ocean than the Blue Line. The Blue Line, in several spots, runs pretty close to the waters, but the Red runs around 3/4 mile into land.
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