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Postby savebowdoin » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:22 pm

Someone posted in a repetitive new thread that the SL buses are using an HOV ramp to get to the Ted Williams Tunnel.

I just wanted to correct it; the SL buses are using a normally restricted State Police emergency access onramp on the grounds of the Central Artery/Tunnel HQ building, right near the Silver Line Way stop and just east of the accident scene.

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Postby jck » Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:19 am

That emergency onramp easily shaved 5 minutes off the trip, it was almost surreal how quickly we were out of SL Way and in the TWT.



I wonder if there is any chance that they will continue to allow the Silver Line to use this ramp once this debacle is over.
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Postby savebowdoin » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:35 pm

I certainly hope this will at least be considered. Although now news is that some of the tunnels will be closed for months, so they'll at least be utilizing that ramp during the summer.

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Postby AznSumtinSumtin » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:30 pm

There's a Silver Line bus inside the Watertown Carhouse. I couldn't see it very well. I couldn't get its number or what type of bus it is. Does anyone have any explanations?
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Postby CJ » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:06 pm

Well, WHDH is reporting that the governor called for a shutdown of the TWT east.

How is this going to affect the silver line, unless they go 2 ways inside the TWT west, but I am doubting that. Oh the delays!

Edit- From the T's site:

Due to the closing of the eastbound lane of the Ted Williams tunnel, Silver Line service is running between all Logan Airport terminals and Airport Station on the Blue Line. Passengers desiring service into Boston can get off at Aquarium Station and re-board the Silver Line for service to the Boston waterfront. Passengers can also remain on the Blue Line for service into Downtown Boston. Passengers on subway service should remain on the subway to the Blue Line for service to Logan Airport. Silver Line passengers should get off at Silver Line Way for shuttle bus service to Aquarium Station to tranfer to the Blue Line.


Would be nice if it stuck, but alas, it will probably be like this for quite a while!
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Postby savebowdoin » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:45 pm

Yikes! That's a nasty trip to the Airport... Red Line to South Station, Silver Line to Silver Line Way, Shuttle Bus to Aquarium, Blue Line to Airport, Silver Line or Massport bus to Terminals

I hope they are announcing this throughout the system, and at South Station, so people can take the Blue Line to begin with if they're in the subway already.

Are they charging for SL airport service? I would imagine they'd charge only on the Blue Line, or have you pay on the SL and not on the BL, or not charge anyone at all for BL or SL services at Logan (probably the easiest alternative).

Are they using the dual mode artics at the Airport, or have they sent some diesel artics and/or 40-foot buses over there? And what are they using for the "shuttle" from Aquarium to SL Way?

Hopefully somebody knows one of the answers ;-)

I guess the brief spotlight of amazing SL Airport service is now gone...

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Postby savebowdoin » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:40 am

I was around town on Friday and heard an automated announcement at Haymarket say "The Silver Line service to Logan Ah-ayerport is operating", which I interpreted to mean that they had resumed normal service. I investigated later by taking a ride, and they had indeed resumed service, though we got a State Police escort all the way through the tunnel. We got to drive right under/through the scaffolding holding up the suspect ceiling panel about 1/3-1/2 the way through the tunnel. My guess is that's the reason for the escort, since the scaffolding leaves about one lane's worth of room in the center of the tunnel to go through. Or they think a police car with flashing lights will prevent the panels from falling on the bus.

Seems like everyone on the bus was aware of last week's incident (who isn't by now), since everyone looked around when we came off Ramp D and near the accident site. Different from the Wednesday after the incident, when nobody else on the bus seemed to know about it.

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Postby StevieC48 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:30 pm

Silver Line Thread will remain active and will not be abolished.
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Postby danib62 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:20 pm

StevieC48 wrote:Silver Line Thread will remain active and will not be abolished.
Way to feed into the MBTA's propganda that the silver line is in fact on par with the rest of the rapid transit system! :wink:
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Postby savebowdoin » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:21 pm

I rode the Silver Line from the FleetBoston Pavilion on Saturday, and it went fairly smoothly. There were long lines to get on the buses, but they were moving quite rapidly. Once one bus filled, it went on its way. They were boarding two or three at a time. Seems like everyone got the hang of the new fareboxes quite quickly.

The only major gripe I had was the apparent lack of easy access from the pavilion to Silver Line Way station platforms. Everyone was squeezing through two gaps in fencing on either side of the inbound shelter.

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Postby savebowdoin » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:41 am

To dust off a dormant thread:

This week the MBTA has been closing the South Boston Transitway for maintenance:

Service Advisory: The Silver Line Tunnel will be closed for maintenance from 9pm until the end of service on Tuesday 11/28, Wednesday 11/29 and Thursday 11/30. During these times, buses on surface streets will replace Silver Line tunnel service. MBTA personnel will be at stations directing customers. The Silver Line will resume its regular route at the start of service each day.


Anyone know if this is just "regular" maintenance or if it is a more substantial problem they're trying to fix?

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Postby RussNelson » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:26 pm

Rode the "Silver Line" a few weeks ago, for the first time. Very unimpressed. If I wanted to ride the bus, I would have ridden the bus. Instead, I got to ride a bus when I wanted to ride a train. Noisy and bumpy. Bleh.
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Postby Arborway » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:29 pm

RussNelson wrote:Rode the "Silver Line" a few weeks ago, for the first time. Very unimpressed. If I wanted to ride the bus, I would have ridden the bus. Instead, I got to ride a bus when I wanted to ride a train. Noisy and bumpy. Bleh.


I can't get over how bumpy the ride is, and the insanity of using the SL buses as a major means of transporting passengers with bulky luggage. It seems like a sadistic joke.
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Postby RussNelson » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:07 am

Oh, oops, I now see no Silver Line bashing. So let me ask instead why anybody thinks BRT is an improvement over Light Rail? Obviously the Feds do, since they're willing to fund BRT. I can see how the dual modeness seems attractive -- use streets when necessary, ROW when possible; use electric when possible, diesel when necessary. But if you're going to go dual-mode, why not use a technology designed for dual-mode? http://www.ruf.dk for example.
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Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:01 am

Arborway wrote:
RussNelson wrote:Rode the "Silver Line" a few weeks ago, for the first time. Very unimpressed. If I wanted to ride the bus, I would have ridden the bus. Instead, I got to ride a bus when I wanted to ride a train. Noisy and bumpy. Bleh.


I can't get over how bumpy the ride is, and the insanity of using the SL buses as a major means of transporting passengers with bulky luggage. It seems like a sadistic joke.


Which is why all the airport and rent-a-car shuttles are not off-the-shelf city buses, but actually designed with suspensions to ensure something resembling a smooth ride while towing or racking luggage. Those shuttles aren't exactly designed for city driving either like a regular bus would be, but that's why they stick them to their specialty of going terminal-to-terminal. Unfortunately that's one limitation of doing a one-size-fits-all make for the SL and just reconfiguring interiors. I also think the state's craptacular style of grooved concrete pavement that seems to be all the rage on Big Dig roads makes the problem even worse.

I've done that ride too as a standee a crowded dual-mode precariously positioned with heavy bags around one arm and between legs and a tenuous grip on the nearest pole, and it's scary as hell...especially when the driver's got the same lead brake foot as if they were driving on any other line. I almost prefer doing Blue-to-shuttle if I'm doing anything heavier than light travel or picking someone up, even with the pain-in-butt extra subway transfer because you get taken to the terminal on a shuttle that's actually built-to-task. I really wonder if they're gonna be back to the drawing board with the SL1 racks setup the first time one of them has to slam it to a dead stop that launches all the 50-pound projectiles off the racks and/or drags their owners through the aisles like ragdolls. Seems like multiple concussions, bruises/lacerations/broken bones, and lawsuits waiting to happen.
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