The EGE wrote:10% won't even buy you enough capacity to handle the additional Central Subway demand from the GLX. It's projected to add 36,000 daily rides by 2030 - one-sixth of current Green Line ridership.
Arlington wrote:I thought the FMCB was looking at the next/Type-10 order being an industry-standard LRV, even at the cost of removing the tightest loops at Park or shaving the walls.
CRail wrote:Type 9s are supplemental to cover GLX. They aren't replacing anything. Type 10s are to replace the 7s and 8s simultaneously, and probably the PCCs too.
Zero. The 0700s on the Blue Line are already a decade old, perhaps this Chinese order shouldn't be limited to the Red and Orange lines! At some point you have to get serious.Bramdeisroberts wrote:What are the odds that a massive Type 9 order could end up replacing the type 10 program altogether?
CRail wrote:You're talking 9+ digit expenses for what?.
CRail wrote:Type 7s are getting their MID life rebuilds at 30 years old, they've easily got 30 to go and if they don't make that it's for no reason other than low floor accessibility. You're probably looking at 15-20 years before the FTA will be willing to discuss another grant for streetcar procurement and, let's face it, the 8s GOTTA GO! (Note the RTS buses surviving their low floor replacements) By that time the Type 9s will be as technologically obsolete as the 7s are now. Not to mention the Mattapan fleet will be the age of open cars toodling along museum tracks today. Now I'd love it if they were still in service at 150 years of age but, as I said, at some point you have to get serious.
CRail wrote:Recarving tunnels? Well, at some point you have to get serious. You're talking 9+ digit expenses for what? A car that fits 8 more standees? Most stations are already long enough to accommodate 4 car trains. There's a much more cost effective way to add capacity than to rebuild a hole. Green Line is NOT HEAVY RAIL, let me make sure that came across clear: it is NOT HEAVY RAIL. All these attempts to operate it as such (but only sometimes) is making it more and more inadequate. The BEST way to improve capacity where it's needed is to do what MUNI did once upon a time and combine cars into trains (or trains into bigger trains) in the central subway and breaking them apart before they hit the surface. Introducing an operation like that could be done today virtually cost free. Combine that with a Supplimental Type 9 fleet and you've got a pretty significant improvement over the status quo, and without this nonsense of realigning tunnels.
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