Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby gokeefe » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:21 pm

Lower cost to operate? ... ?
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby Trinnau » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:18 pm

MBTA has been installing gas blower heaters in addition to electric heaters. The first started popping up at some key points - places where single track becomes double track or oft-used crossovers. So in addition to the baseline electric heaters, the gas blower heaters can handle a large amount of snow in short order, and also clear the track for a much bigger area, allowing a train that is pushing snow a place to drop that snow prior to dumping it on the switch points which can prevent them from throwing.

This is all stuff out of the lessons learned from 2015.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby BandA » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:55 pm

Is it propane or natural gas?
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:29 pm

Propane. It's cheap, and can be done anywhere from a tank hookup in the signal bungalow. Switch heaters don't exactly use a lot of fuel, so the tanks can be small/safe and don't need to be refilled often. To do natural gas you need a pre-existing existing local utility gas line that happens by pure chance to be adjacent to the tracks right next to the interlocking. Proximity to a gas line just doesn't match up well with enough interlocking locations across the system, so only a handful of switches would ever plausibly have a gas source close enough to be able to be done up that way. Ends up better economy-of-scale to just pick one fuel type and use propane systemwide for any such winter-resiliency installations.
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