Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby deathtopumpkins » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:48 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't trains still block that crossing when making that stop?

That would imply that this move never happened, if the point of it was to stop blocking the crossing.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby sery2831 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:45 am

Correct trains still block the crossing.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby insider485 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:12 am

WOW it's been awhile passing through the wildcat area of construction!!!

Lots of work with track and signal bridges installed around the old interlock. looks like ballast cars have dropped tons of stone right up to the rt 93 overpass on the new track sections. Track tamper doing it's thing now past the old steel barrier wall once standing by Market basket warehouse lot. Looks like there will be cutting in new switches at the wildcat in a few weeks. :wink: :-)
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby octr202 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:52 am

Wow...apparently it was me. I stop using the line and look at all the progress. ;-)
Wondering if I'll see the Haverhill double-tracking finished before I retire...
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby BostonUrbEx » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:00 pm

I believe current order of things is for Ash St and Woburn St to be cut into service, then CPW WJ will be removed from service until it's reincarnation is ready to go live, and the Wildcat will temporarily double in length as it runs from Wilmington to CPF LJ.

We should be within a couple months of this happening.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby sery2831 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:05 pm

So I can see some confusion here. Is this correct? WWJ is temporarily eliminated and the Wildcat will run the "number 2" track to LJ and the Western Route will run the "number 1" track to LJ. Meanwhile the new interlocking at Ash St. will be placed in service.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby BostonUrbEx » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:10 pm

That's correct. CPW WJ will be (temporarily) retired and there will be two "Single" tracks running side-by-side for two miles.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby swist » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:59 am

Are there diagrams somewhere showing this work? I'm having trouble locating the places in this discussion. Some of them are in the Guilford Timetable if they are "CPF XX", but others "Vale?" are not to be found, Also I can only find an Ash St in Reading so I don't know how this applies to the area around WJ and LJ, unless my context is really off (likely!). Thanks.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby BvaleShihTzu » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:51 pm

The new track through Andover is apparently being frequently used, particularly by Pan Am, as a siding to hold freight trains for extended periods -- which is stirring local complaints
http://www.andovertownsman.com/news/cov ... f401d.html
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby Backshophoss » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:39 am

The kicker is PAR dispatches that section of track(D-2),not MBTA.
There's a thread in the PAR/Guilford Forum about Andover's complaints.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby morgan28k » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:49 pm

The new crossing gates, flashers and "electronic" bells have been installed at the Lowell Junction Road grade crossing at LJ.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby Rockingham Racer » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:46 pm

Is the plan to have universal crossovers at LJ?
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby BostonUrbEx » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:12 pm

Yes, but it is unclear if they'll install both crossovers as a part of this current project or not. They might leave room for the 'trailing point' crossover but not install it until they figure out how they're double tracking Ballardvale.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby gokeefe » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:38 pm

This whole project can't get done soon enough. Big summer of travel coming up and the Downeaster is currently experiencing record ridership.
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Re: Haverhill Line Upgrade Discussion (Western Route)

Postby Rockingham Racer » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:54 am

BostonUrbEx wrote:Yes, but it is unclear if they'll install both crossovers as a part of this current project or not. They might leave room for the 'trailing point' crossover but not install it until they figure out how they're double tracking Ballardvale.


It's pretty evident that this project wasn't well figured out; or laid out piecemeal. Ballardvale platform on the track 1 side, Lawrence on the other side. As far as doubling thru Ballardvale, that's pretty straightforward. Move the crossing apparatus and take back up the asphalt that was put down over the roadbed of the old Eastward Main. When that is done, as well as the construction of the second platform in Andover, there will be fewer traffic conflicts. Are they still running at restricted speed between Frost and Bradford?
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