Status Of Equipment at BET

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Re: Status of 902

Postby MBTA3247 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:47 am

diburning wrote:
MBTA3247 wrote:Diesel-electric locomotives fall outside the scope of Seashore's mission, which is to preserve transit equipment.


Not true. Seashore has CSX equipment there too. They also have electric locomotives that were never used for transit.

I think that Seashore is more interested in things where they can slap on a trolley pole and make it run.

Ok, so there are some exceptions to the rule that I was too lazy to mention. :P The CSX stuff is all MOW equipment, though.
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Re: Status of 902

Postby sery2831 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:51 am

Veristek wrote:Wouldn't preserving a F40PH be doing a service to railroad history? The F40's aren't made anymore, I believe. In addition, the F40's have given MBTA 30 years of service... now that's commitment.


We are not saying a MBTA F40PH shouldn't be preserved, it's just Seashore is not the organization to do it. This thread is about the 902 and not preserving F40s...
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Re: Status of 902

Postby mbta1051dan » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:01 pm

Haha maybe my railroad the berkshire scenic should get it it'd be perfect for the seven (or eight, maybe) car fall foliage trains!

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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby mbta1051dan » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:51 pm

Well if they really are gonna scrap the 1030 should they put the good prime mover in something like 1129, 1016 or 1017, or maybe even ship it up to Waterville to put it in the 1006, and maybe they should put the HEP in the 1125?

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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby diburning » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:36 pm

I went past BET again on Saturday. 902 isntt outside anymore. Well, if it is, it's not next to 1030.
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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby bmcdr » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:41 pm

Rest assured the 902 is indeed out there, she hasn't moved an inch since the day it was put there, I'm looking out the window at it right now.
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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby diburning » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:38 pm

bmcdr wrote:Rest assured the 902 is indeed out there, she hasn't moved an inch since the day it was put there, I'm looking out the window at it right now.


Hmm, last time I saw it I was on a bridge. I think I didn't see it on saturday because I was on the orange line. With 1030 being taller and longer than 902, I think because the track is kind of parallel to the orange line, I didn't see 902.
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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby bmcdr » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:35 pm

Good News! The 1030 has been rescued, her fate will not be the torch. It has been moved inside on Diesel 1 and the shop forces have been insructed to make her road worthy so that she may be shipped out for rebuilding. As of this writing, there have been two bids recieved but I don't know when the bids close or who the bidders are.
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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby Veristek » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:52 pm

bmcdr wrote:Good News! The 1030 has been rescued, her fate will not be the torch. It has been moved inside on Diesel 1 and the shop forces have been insructed to make her road worthy so that she may be shipped out for rebuilding. As of this writing, there have been two bids recieved but I don't know when the bids close or who the bidders are.


Now I can go to bed tonight a very happy man. Thanks for the news, Bmcdr! I appreciate it.
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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby kwf » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:32 pm

bmcdr wrote:Good News! The 1030 has been rescued, her fate will not be the torch. It has been moved inside on Diesel 1 and the shop forces have been insructed to make her road worthy so that she may be shipped out for rebuilding. As of this writing, there have been two bids recieved but I don't know when the bids close or who the bidders are.


That's great news...otherwise I was gonna suggest making her into an MBTA cabbage car....
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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby jwhite07 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:15 am

Wouldn't preserving a F40PH be doing a service to railroad history? The F40's aren't made anymore, I believe. In addition, the F40's have given MBTA 30 years of service... now that's commitment.


A railfan in the Pacific Northwest someplace has already purchased an intact F40PH from Amtrak for the purpose of preservation, so that's taken care of. The T's own F40s will continue to get run into the ground, patched up, and sent out again and again until the T progresses with their long planned, and long delayed, process of acquiring new locomotives.
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Re: Status of 902

Postby Gerry6309 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:39 am

sery2831 wrote:We are not saying a MBTA F40PH shouldn't be preserved, it's just Seashore is not the organization to do it. This thread is about the 902 and not preserving F40s...

Seashore acquires non-transit equipment for utility purposes. D-1, our present diesel-mechanical, is a b+++h to operate with its crash gearbox and pony engine start. A small diesel electric switcher might have some benefit for the operation. As far as road engines are concerned, there is no real place for them.

It looks like the legal dept released 1030 pretty quickly. Whether it is worth repairing will be evidenced in the bids being received and the MBTA's reaction. The bean counters will hold sway.
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Re: Status of 902

Postby mbta1051dan » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:21 am

Gerry6309 wrote: Whether it is worth repairing will be evidenced in the bids being received and the MBTA's reaction. The bean counters will hold sway.


Yo didn't you see hutch's post? It is going to be shipped off for rebuilding.

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Re: Status of 902

Postby sery2831 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:11 pm

mbta1051dan wrote:
Gerry6309 wrote: Whether it is worth repairing will be evidenced in the bids being received and the MBTA's reaction. The bean counters will hold sway.


Yo didn't you see hutch's post? It is going to be shipped off for rebuilding.

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Just because it's up for bid to be fixed doesn't mean it will happen. As Gerry said, if the bids are too high the T could choose not to rebuild her.
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Re: Status of 902/ 1030 and Other Dead Stuff at BET

Postby Tracer » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:38 pm

Somewhat related website to topic. Tells you whats active or not.
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