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DNC schedule changes for south-side commuter trains

Postby Ron Newman » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:13 pm

Today's Globe Starts & Stops column announces these changes for South Side commuter rail during DNC week. I don't see anything about this on the MBTA web site:

Rail rejoicing

Commuter rail passengers south of the city, rejoice. To provide additional service and increased capacity during the convention, the following schedule changes will be put into place by the MBTA from July 26 to July 29.

Attleboro/Stoughton Line:

#811 -- A 2:15 p.m. departure from South Station to South Attleboro will extend service to Providence for a 3:23 p.m. arrival.

#818 -- A 3:25 p.m. departure from South Attleboro to South Station will originate from Providence, departing at 3:33 p.m. The train will now be about 25 minutes late to Boston.

#813 -- A 3:45 p.m. departure from Boston to Providence will stop at Route 128 at about 4:06 p.m.

#977 -- A 3:55 p.m. departure from Boston to Canton Center will be extended to Stoughton, arriving at 4:34 p.m.

#978 -- A 4:40 p.m. departure from Canton Center to South Station will operate approximately 15 minutes late from Canton Center to Boston.


Extra Route 128 Shuttles:

Depart South Station at 12:50 p.m., Back Bay at 12:55 p.m., arrive Route 128 at 1:10 p.m.

Depart South Station at 1:50 p.m., Back Bay at 1:55 p.m., arrive Route 128 at 2:10 p.m.

Depart South Station at 2:50 p.m., Back Bay at 2:55 p.m., arrive Route 128 at 3:10 p.m.


Franklin Branch:

One additional train to Forge Park, leaving South Station at 3:30 p.m. and arriving at Forge Park at 4:36 p.m., making all stops.


Framingham-Worcester:

P517 -- a 2:40 p.m. departure from South Station to Framingham will extend service to Worcester, making all intermediate stops as follows: Ashland at 3:30 p.m., Southborough at 3:34, Westborough at 3:43 p.m., Grafton at 3:47 p.m., Worcester at 4:01 p.m.

P526 -- inbound service will depart Framingham at 4:45 p.m. for South Station.


Middleborough-Lakeville:

Extra service to Middleborough-Lakeville will be provided on a 3:15 p.m. train departing Braintree. Passengers wishing to connect to this train from South Station or JFK-UMass will board Train 067 (2:45 p.m. departure from South Station) or take the Red Line and change at Braintree to the Middleborough-Lakeville train.


Kingston:

Extra service to Kingston will use Train 067, the 2:45 p.m. departure from South Station to Plymouth. The train will stop at Kingston. The train is expected to be 20 minutes late to its final stop at Plymouth.
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Postby Ron Newman » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:17 pm

How are they going to do that last one? Sounds messy.
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:52 am

I guess that they are going to have crewmen on both ends of the train, and when it gets to the splitoff at Kingston/Plympton after leaving Kingston Terminus, then they will porbably throw the switches by hand and then take it to the other direction to the Plymouth extension.
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Postby Ron Newman » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:00 am

Would that be easier than putting an engine at both ends, and splitting the train before the junction?
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:07 am

Ron Newman, thank you for the update!!!!! I am sure the T will post something soon, but this is going to be good for me that 811 runs to Providence instead :D
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:09 am

Robert Paniagua Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:52 am Post subject:

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I guess that they are going to have crewmen on both ends of the train, and when it gets to the splitoff at Kingston/Plympton after leaving Kingston Terminus, then they will porbably throw the switches by hand and then take it to the other direction to the Plymouth extension.


there isn't a WYE connector at the junction, correct?
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Postby paulrail » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:19 pm

Unfortunately, when the Kingston/Plymouth Line was restored, a wye was not installed at the junction ("seaside") of the two branches.

The train will have to run up to ("gravel") and into the Kingston station first, then reverse direction and come back down to "seaside" interlocking and re-enter the main line. After the switch is thrown at CETC at South Station, the train can reverse direction and proceed down the line to the Plymouth station.

The T did this shuffle on the day the Plymouth station opened. We boarded the train at Kingston and rode "all the way" down to Plymouth! :P

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Postby Ron Newman » Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:36 pm

OK, but why is that easier than splitting the train, sending some cars to Plymouth and others to Kingston?
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Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:34 pm

they should send two trains, one after another or something
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Postby octr202 » Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:45 am

The Kingston/Plymouth shuffle is easy to explain. Cost. Look at the number of extra trains the T is running that week, both north and south. Splitting the train would require a second locomotive and a second crew, a seperate train requires even more (plus the track space to fit it in). When there are so many other places that need the extra service that week, is it worth using the manpower and equipment to avoid a 20 minute delay?
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Postby CSX Conductor » Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:28 am

If they have a 'double-draft' from Boston to the junction where the Knihston and Plymouth lines seperate, there would be extra time consumed..........disconnecting M.U. cables........doing a break test on each train after un-couple them from each other.....and when deadheading the equipment back to Boston, it would be two trains instead of one.
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