Gov't Center Renovations (split from brattle loop thread)

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Postby MBTAFan » Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:47 pm

I thought I had heard of plans within the next few years to rebuild the Government Center station. I had even seen picture of a proposed design online at some point.

The only reference I could find to it online was this article:
http://www.townonline.com/wakefield/news/local_regional/wak_newwkbrianthomson10152003.htm

I would assume this would include modernization of the Brattle loop.
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Postby CJ » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:48 am

Yeah, to add room for the 6 car blueline trains

Well, i was around there about 2 weeks ago, and at the back of the station , someone left the door wide open! Why not explore... eerie, said "scollay under" on the wall, faded, but there... strange!
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Postby BC Eagle » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:39 am

That article about Government Center says the project won't be completed until the end of 2006. Does this mean that the new Blue Line cars won't be used until then, or will they extend the Blue Line platforms first, then finish the rest of the project?

I found a site with some decent pictures of the design. I like how the text refers to City Hall Plaza as a "wasteland" and "urban impotence". :)

http://www.soul-d.com/home.jsp?body=caseTDA.jsp
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Postby Ron Newman » Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:53 am

They can't run 6-car trains until all platforms are extended -- not just GC, but also State, Maverick, and Orient Heights.
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Postby BC Eagle » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:13 pm

I knew about State and Maverick, but I thought I heard that Orient Heights wasn't getting a remodel because the platform was already long enough for six car trains. It's been so long since I've been to that station I haven't been able to check it out for myself

When the new cars come in will they use them in 4-car consists or wait until they can be used as 6-car trains.
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:26 pm

Yeah, they probably will be doing so, since the new Blue Line cars are supposed to be married pairs (two-car sets), unlike the NYCT R142-R142A, which are 5-car sets.
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Postby Ron Newman » Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:41 pm

Regardless of whether Orient Heights platforms are long enough, that station desperately needs an overhaul.

After the Charles, Fields Corner, and Shawmut construction projects are finished, Orient Heights will be the most dilapidated remaining T station.
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Postby BC Eagle » Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:24 pm

Oh yeah, I definitely agree. That's why it really stuck in my head when I heard it wasn't getting a remodel. In fact I think someone on this board said it.
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Postby vanshnookenraggen » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:48 pm

I hope that the T just rehabilitates OH. I like the design, but it will need to be made ADA complient.
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Postby MBTAFan » Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:14 am

CJ wrote:Yeah, to add room for the 6 car blueline trains


Well obviously the blue line platform will be lengthened, but I was referring to the Green line station above as well.
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Postby CJ » Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:15 pm

MBTAFan wrote:
CJ wrote:Yeah, to add room for the 6 car blueline trains


Well obviously the blue line platform will be lengthened, but I was referring to the Green line station above as well.


Heh, yeah, well its part of it !

But umm, it SEEMS that OH only fits around 5.5 cars (like when an imbound train is stopped, and an outbound is moving) seems LIKE only 5.5 can fit!
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Postby CS » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:27 pm

As far as I know with Gov't Center, the blue line platform is already long enough - they just have to tear down the wall at the end of the station. If you go to the end of the wall and look through it (or around it) you can see the now abandoned "Scollay Under" platform.
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:46 pm

Yeah, that's right CS. I've circumvented that wall and got to see the faded "Scollay Under" sign, and also saw that 6 x 48 traincoaches can fit at GC, once they have demolished the colourful protable walls at each bulkhead end of that station.
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