Yes, 100% of all riders have more direct access, but that only has value if it is needed or used. How does a NSRL benefit my daughter who commutes from Natick to Yawkee every day? How does a NSRL benefit a lawyer from Fitchburg get to the Cambridge Court house at Lechmere? How does a NSRL benefit a Lowell doctor get to New England Medical Center?BostonUrbEx wrote:Your math is flawed here.A NS Rail link would benefit, at most, 40% of all commuters
You mean to say 40% of current ridership would have more direct access to Kendall Square. That is different from saying up to 40% of commuters would benefit from NSRL. On the whole, 100% of all riders have more direct access to different places.
octr202 wrote:It's not just about the Lowell, Western, and Eastern Routes having better access to Kendall Square (which will still suffer from being further away from downtown no matter what), but think of the access to the Financial District (direct), Back Bay, the Seaport (close walking distance), and the LMA (much closer if trains serve Back Bay, Ruggles, or Yawkey when through-routed from the North side). And no, not every train will serve everywhere, but until we start trying to advance the tunnel project and the resulting upgrades to the rest of the CR system, commuters going to these areas will continue to eschew commuter rail service. When a commuter from Beverly or Reading spends the same amount of time or more getting from North Station to their workplace as they do on the commuter train itself, large numbers of these commuters will continue to drive. And as expensive as the NSRL is, we can't afford to create more road space and parking space in the city to accommodate these folks.
Not 40% of all MBTA users, just 40% of commuter rail passengers. There is no benefit to riders who do not use the commuter rail. There are ninety thousand daily commuter rail trips today. Commuter rail usage is not going to increase by a factor of five just because of the NSRL.Arlington wrote:Yellowspoon wrote:...A NS Rail link would benefit, at most, 40% of all commuters, or about 1.1 million riders a month. With a monthly amortization cost of $17.9 million, that means that each use would cost someone about $16 per ride. That's about $7500 per year per person
The T has 1.1 Million rides* per day.
If we accept your number of 40%, that's 440,000 rides per day. [text omitted]
Yellowspoon wrote:There is no benefit to riders who do not use the commuter rail.
Yellowspoon wrote:And as I pointed out in my previous post, the patrons who want to get from North Station to Kendall would save, at most, two minutes.
deathtopumpkins wrote:I used to do the North Station - Kendall commute via Red-Green, and to catch my 5:15 train home I had to leave my office by 4:30. Sometimes I made it to North Station early enough to catch the 5:00 train, but occasionally I missed the 5:15 and had to wait for the next one (which I believe was 5:40 then).
That should give you some idea of the variance in travel time when you have multiple transfers.
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