NREX Switchers 3248/3249 Thread(New MBTA CR switcher rumor)

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Re: Pictured Loco Not a Hybrid

Postby diburning » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:05 pm

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sery2831 wrote:Here is a story about the engine.

http://www.metrobostonnews.com/us/artic ... /index.xml


That article is a little confusing in that it states that the T is looking to buy a "hybrid" locomotive. The one being borrowed and shown in the picture is not a hybrid. It is what is called a "gen-set" locomotive. It has three diesel motors, and only runs the number of motors required for the current load. It does not have storage batteries, and can't run off straight electric.

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They probably borrowed the picture of the switcher knowing that the general public can't tell the difference.
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Re: Pictured Loco Not a Hybrid

Postby sery2831 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:10 pm

diburning wrote:
http://www.metrobostonnews.com/us/artic ... /index.xml

They probably borrowed the picture of the switcher knowing that the general public can't tell the difference.


That is the switcher. Notice the CR cars in the picture too? The clearance issue with that switcher is the cab is set really high up. It is taller than a K car!!! The two switchers we will get will have a much lower cab :-)
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Postby concordgirl » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:28 am

so we are definitely getting two gensets, then? Will they be repainted with the wacky purple scheme, like the 3247?
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Postby Guilford Guy » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:48 pm

It willl be interesting if they get a B&Mish, NHish, or NYCish scheme, like 1921 had and 904 has.
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Postby concordgirl » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:53 pm

Agreed. That would be very cool :) Who gets to make that decision?
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Postby Stmtrolleyguy » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:32 pm

I say they should have a design competition open to the general public.
The Herald had their own competition about 10 years ago with a PCC blank that kids could color in when Mattapan got its rebuild . Why couldn't the T do something similar? I'd love to take a crack at designing the paint scheme for a genset.
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Postby 130MM » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:58 am

MBTA3247 wrote:3247 will definitely be staying in service. 904 is debatable, as it spends almost as much time out of service as it does in service! :P I assume the genset switcher they've been trying out will be returned, since it has clearance issues (how can a switcher have clearance issues?!).


Here is a link to a specifications page:

http://www.nationalrailway.com/3GS-21B_Spec%20ad.pdf

You will note the maximum height above the top of rail is 16'-3". Kawasakis and F40's are 15'-6".

In the photo it appears to my eye that the cab sits a little higher than a normal cab, and then you add an air conditioner and there's your 16-6.
And, yes, there are spots on Commuter Rail where 16-6 will not fit.

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Postby concordgirl » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:01 pm

K, this might be a dumb question. But... in the diagram it looks like one of the diesel motors is in the cab area (I'm assuming the motors are those 3 blue-highlighted thingies). Does the extra high cab have anything to do with the placement of that third motor, or is it unrelated?
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Postby octr202 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:00 am

The gensets should be in the three compartments with the exhaust stacks at the cab end -- it looks like they only highlighted one (the middle one). The other blue highlights look like other systems, not the gensets.

The footnotes hold the answer to the height:
2 N-ViroMotive models are available in Plate C and alternative Plate dimensions.


The tall cab is just how the demonstrator was spec'ed out. The "Plates" refer to various standards of dimensions for rolling stock.
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Postby concordgirl » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:08 am

Hey, thanks for clarifying that, much appreciated :-) I hate just guessing, but I am not a railroader, obviously lol So we just need to order a different "plate" of this loco than the demo model. Cool! I SO can't wait to get pics of the new switchers!!! :-D
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Postby CSX Conductor » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:58 am

130MM wrote:And, yes, there are spots on Commuter Rail where 16-6 will not fit.
Yes, like between Boston & Readville on the Corridor, between Junction & Mansfield on the Corridor. :(
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Re: New MBTA CR switcher rumor

Postby diburning » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:44 pm

Does anyone know an exat delivery date and/or how they will arrive? Will they arrive on a CSX train?

Also, John, you might want to change the title of this thread since it's no longer a rumor.
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Postby daylight4449 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:03 pm

concordgirl wrote:Agreed. That would be very cool :) Who gets to make that decision?



I'm in complete agreement. to tell ou the truth, couldn't they do a contest at the schools in MA to decide on the paint schemes of the loco's. kinda like the B&M did with naming it's locomotives.
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Re: New MBTA CR switcher rumor

Postby daylight4449 » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:17 pm

hey guys i just sent that idea i came up with to the T's customer service. not sure if it will get through though
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Re: New MBTA CR switcher rumor

Postby diburning » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:35 pm

daylight4449 wrote:hey guys i just sent that idea i came up with to the T's customer service. not sure if it will get through though


I don't know.... It's kind of like exploiting a kid to get a free paint scheme idea. NASA is doing something similar. (name the next mars rover)
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