CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby chrisf » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:16 am

diburning wrote:The mTicket app appears to have been removed from the Apple app store. On my phone, it's labeled as MBTA. Searching mTicket or MBTA in the app store does not show the app. I was at South Attleboro trying to help someone download the app and couldn't find it. I couldn't find it in the app store on my phone either. I already have the app (in which case the app store would simply show that it has been installed). The app still works fine though, and the conductors aren't aware of any changes.

There have been several tweets in the past week from Keolis that states they've been having some availability issues with the app. I have no idea what that means specifically.
The app is available this morning for me to download, so I'm not seeing any of these issues personally.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby nomis » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:01 am

It's been an issue recently with then new iOS, that has popped up.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby leviramsey » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:45 pm

It's available normally on Android.

I don't recall ever having to log in to the Android version.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby Rbts Stn » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:56 am

Charlie Cards expire? Yes! Charlie Cards expire! Probably had had mine about 10 years.

Found this out yesterday heading into Boston to meet with an attorney -- usually I just take the train to and from Fenway, so this worked out well for me as I was quite ahead of schedule and was terminating at Park Street. Friendly conductor on the C Line told me to go to "the Charlie Store" at Downtown Crossing to get a new card, so I figured a quick run down the corridor connecting Park and DC and I'd be done!

Well. It's quite a schlep to get to the Charlie store (down that hall, down the stairs, up again on the other side of the tracks, out through fare control and waaaaay down the hall) to a brightly lit Charlie Card Store where I was greeted by a friendly employee asking me what I needed. Told her, she printed me out a ticket and pointed to some (full) chairs to sit in. And then they started calling the numbers, which start with letters "A" through "F" and seem to go in no particular order (letterwise, the numbers at least were sequential).

THIS IS NO STORE, IT'S THE REGISTRY OF MOTOR VEHICLES DISGUISED AS A STORE!!!

20 minutes later my 45 second transaction was completed "Oh, this is a first generation card, it's almost a collector's item" the friendly service person told me as she transferred the $10 and change I had left on the card (last used about a month ago). And yes, many folks who arrived after me were taken before I was. There's got to be a better way.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby MBTA3247 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:18 am

I wonder how your card managed to not expire with all the other 1st gen cards a few years ago.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby Rbts Stn » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:01 pm

Good question. I use it quite a bit in the summer, did use it 3-4 weeks ago on a green line train with no issues.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:44 am

MBTA3247 wrote:I wonder how your card managed to not expire with all the other 1st gen cards a few years ago.


Didn't the MBTA artificially extend their life? IIRC, after a flood of complaints/issues, the MBTA set up the fare vending machines to update the expiration dates to give people an opportunity to get new cards. I don't remember the specifics to it.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby diburning » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:00 am

I believe the plan was to have a rolling expiration period if the cards were regularly used. However, they must have discontinued it because the only first gen cards that I see these days are Senior IDs. Even then, Senior IDs were replaced when second gen cards were released (although that did not invalidate the first gen Senior IDs which can still be used until the expiration on the card). Senior IDs have expiration dates very far into the future (at the risk of sounding too cynical, most of the cards will outlive their users) so I see then every now and then, but they're the only ones that I ever see that are still valid.

The first gen cards have yellow serial numbers. I believe there is a small number of first gen cards with black serial numbers as well, but if it's orange, it's definitely from the first generation.

I've seen a few card failures in my time. It seems that the weak point is where the antenna attaches to the RFID chip. The cause of this is probably from too much flexing (from an overstuffed wallet, tight pocket, etc) In fact, I have one in my wallet right now that only works when it's perfectly straight. If I pull it out of my pocket, it won't work.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby danib62 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:11 pm

My day 1 CharlieCard is still going strong!
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby diburning » Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:39 pm

diburning wrote:The first gen cards have yellow serial numbers. I believe there is a small number of first gen cards with black serial numbers as well, but if it's orange, it's definitely from the first generation.


After making that post, I have been keeping an eye out for first gen regular cards (not senior/TAP or otherwise) and checking the expirations when riders come for a refill. It appears that they all (all of the ones I've seen at least. I have seen about a dozen in the past week) now have an expiration of Sept 15, 2016. I'm unsure if that's a rolling expiration.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby diburning » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:47 pm

I have a question about expired commuter rail tickets. If a commuter rail ticket is expired, am I correct to assume that the ticket is no longer valid and all value is lost?
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby deathtopumpkins » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:03 pm

diburning wrote:I have a question about expired commuter rail tickets. If a commuter rail ticket is expired, am I correct to assume that the ticket is no longer valid and all value is lost?


Yes. Once expired, it's expired. You can't transfer the value of it like you can the balance on an expired CharlieCard or Ticket.
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby Arlington » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:23 pm

I just read in another forum that Charlie Card is due to be replaced by 2020--or at least by then to allow tap-to-validate at all Green Line doors, allowing a POP / all door boarding setup. Can anyone here elaborate?
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby rethcir » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:55 am

Arlington wrote:I just read in another forum that Charlie Card is due to be replaced by 2020--or at least by then to allow tap-to-validate at all Green Line doors, allowing a POP / all door boarding setup. Can anyone here elaborate?


Yeah, right..
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Re: CharlieCard / Ticket discussion

Postby Disney Guy » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:53 pm

Can't existing Charlie Cards be used in a proof of payment system?
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