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Green Line Boeing LRV General Discussion

Postby StevieC48 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:23 am

This is to document the last months as the cars in service. Car # date you saw it in service and where or what line. Hope that clarifies it :wink:

Boeings, overhauled by Amerail 1996-7: 18 active cars

3423, 3424, 3429, 3437, 3439, 3445, 3462, 3468, 3480, 3485, 3499, 3500, 3514, 3517, 3520, 3523, 3526, 3542
This is as of 8/06 from NETransit.w/permission of J.Belcher
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Re: Green Line LRV Tracker

Postby chex » Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:48 pm

' .. last months as the cars.. ' ? Typo here?

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StevieC48 wrote:This is to document the last months as the cars in service.
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Postby -Garrett » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:15 am

Since the only Green Line cars that we refer to as "LRV's" on this board are Boeings, and as those are the cars that are supposed to be entirely retired by the new Type 8s, I believe this is what is being referred to.

So, on that note, NE Transit's webiste now lists 11 trains still active. However, this number has fluctuated between 10 and 12 over the past two weeks, which leads me to believe that different trains are being brought in and out of service as they are repaired. So perhaps this is a permanent contingency fleet, and the days of regular serivce have indeed already come to a close for the Boeing Vertol American LRV series Green Line cars. Just a guess...

I would also like to point out that the MBTA has about 11 or 12 fuctional PCC's which means that for the first time, since the early 80's, the number of LRV's and PCC's is about the same, as trivial a fact as that sounds...
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:17 pm

I won't miss these "Borings" too much, but this tracker thread is a ngood idea, since this topic will become the tracker for their scrap status.

Also, when the 015/01600s of the Red Line and 0600s of the Blue Line begin retirement, we'll have to sart a topic for each too.

I wonder if these Boeing's will be recycled over at the Mattapan-Ashmont Line along with the PCCs?
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Postby -Garrett » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:48 pm

Robert, with all due respect, please stop calling them the "Borings" as this is a matter of opinion. These were the first trolleys I ever rode on, and I have a lot of fond memories of riding them over the last 20 years.

Robert Paniagua wrote:I won't miss these "Borings" too much, but this tracker thread is a ngood idea, since this topic will become the tracker for their scrap status.

Also, when the 015/01600s of the Red Line and 0600s of the Blue Line begin retirement, we'll have to sart a topic for each too.

I wonder if these Boeing's will be recycled over at the Mattapan-Ashmont Line along with the PCCs?
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:13 am

Well, I got that nickname from somebody else. But I also call the LRV's the appropiate name. The one difference the Boeing Vertol's had that the Kinki T7s and Breda T8s do not have that I liked was the railfan window, before they were rehabbed that when riding in the back of those trolleys, and we could look out the back of the train, although no Boeing Car unrehabbed had run on the Lechmere Extension since early 1987 when the T7s arrived. The next time Boeings went down Lechmere in 1997, they were then overhauled and one of the overhaul conditions were the elimination of the rear railfan window behind the driver's seat.
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Postby Reddy Rocker » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:00 pm

Robert Paniagua wrote:Well, I got that nickname from somebody else.


And that "somebody else" was me, so please, don't pick on him, pick on me instead. But I also agree that this thread is a good idea.
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Postby MBTAFan » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:24 pm

-Garrett wrote:I would also like to point out that the MBTA has about 11 or 12 fuctional PCC's which means that for the first time, since the early 80's, the number of LRV's and PCC's is about the same, as trivial a fact as that sounds...


There are technically more Boeings in service than PCCs; all of the PCC cars are out of service until next June for rebuild work on the Mattapan-Ashmont line.

There are still more Boeings on MBTA property; another 18 are out of service for a total of 29.

There are 10 rebuilt PCC cars; 11 total if you include the PCC wire car at Mattapan (assuming it's "functional")
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Postby -Garrett » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:22 pm

There are 13 LRV's active today. So the number seems to be on the way up. I wonder what they are defining as "Active."
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Postby MassBayMC1131 » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:51 pm

Does anyone know what the deal is with the LRV maintenance car?... Is it getting decomissioned with the rest of the boeings or is the T still going to use it.... I beleive it's sitting in between Boylston and Arlington, You can usually see it from the train, It is painted white with the T's yellow stripe?
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Postby typesix » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:11 am

It's a rerailing car, so unless the T comes up with another car to replace it, it should be staying. When the LRVs are retired, likely spare parts will be kept from the retirees.
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Postby MassBayMC1131 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:42 pm

Does anyone know if there is going to be a fan trip planned for the boeings?
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Postby sery2831 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:24 pm

There have been two farewell to the Boeing fan trips already! I highly doubt there will be anymore trips with the Boeings. I am sure the next farewell fan trip on the Green Line will be to the Type 8s, heh :wink:
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Postby MassBayMC1131 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:12 pm

when were they?..... what were they like?....
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Postby -Garrett » Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:39 pm

The number of Boeings has gone up again, to 18.
Which begs the question: Is the T going to completely scrap these, or keep them around as a contingency fleet (in case of more T8 trouble). And if so, will the LRV's finally get that new coat of paint on the doors they have deserved for so long?

And just as a related thought, wouldn't it be cool if, just for fun, the MBTA kept a couple and painted them in the Teal and Silver Livery? Heck, why not?
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