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Rapid Transit/Commuter Rail track connections

Postby AznSumtinSumtin » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:48 am

Are there any spots where rapid transit tracks connect either directly or indirectly with the commuter rail. I know that the D line on the Green Line is connected with the Worcester/Framingham commuter line. Anything else?
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Postby CSX Conductor » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:22 pm

The switch there has been taken out, I believe. Although there is trolley-wire above, I don't believe the track is the proper guage for a trolley to come down that far, I believe that the track extends towards the facility so and a trolley would be lifted on or off a flat car at that point.

I may be wrong, as I never saw anything there nor did I ever get a good enough look.
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Postby astrosa » Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:06 pm

Proper guage? All of the MBTA's lines run on standard 4'-8.5" guage. Here's a very nifty photo of that track arrangement at Riverside.

I'm not aware offhand of any other connections, but likely places might be around Community College and Sullivan Square on the Orange Line, or places like Oak Grove, Braintree and Alewife that have commuter service passing through.

Also, the Red Line tracks that branch off near JFK/UMass and lead to Cabot Yard may at some point connect with tracks to the commuter rail facility near there. But I don't actually know for sure!
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Postby sery2831 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:18 pm

For the orange line there is a connection at Wellington to the outside world. The connection is at the underpass for the medford branch.

The connection at Riverside has been changed all around, it's now a test track for the Type 8s. It's all fenced in, and I dont know if CSX took out the switch, but that's how the Boeings were brought in from the factory. And I got to ride one of the commuter rail shuttles to Riverside from South Station during the great flood!!! :-) That was NEAT!!!
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:32 am

How about the Red Line itself, especially at Cabot Yard? Any connection there?
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Postby 130MM » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:23 am

There are no direct connections between Commuter Rail and the Red Line.

Robert Paniagua wrote:How about the Red Line itself, especially at Cabot Yard? Any connection there?
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:30 am

How do Red Line cars get taken away by freight train then?

Maybe a truck will do.
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Postby jwhite07 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:28 pm

The last MBTA rapid transit vehicles that I know of that were delivered by rail were the Boeing LRVs.
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Postby sery2831 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:04 pm

The blue line cars came via rail didnt they???
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Postby CJ » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:23 pm

Did they even come yet? I thought I heard some odd sounds last nite train coming off the tracks late into the yard(like 245), and either coupling with something, or hitting the umm, endtrack thingy (cant remember the name!)

But IIRC there are no rail connections, im 99.999% sure that there arent, but I could always be wrong!

And on top of that, if there trucking them in, can they bring that weight over normal streets?, siemens specs shows em @45.5 tons each, and I can only see them bringin em in either @ the yards, or @ wonderland (if only the spur track was still @ airport!), and if the yards (now if only i could find the height of the cars!) it would be a tight fit height wise in some areas!

Speaking of that, like you said, how did they bring in the 600's?
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Postby doublebell » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:36 am

The 0600s were delivered by rail via a temporary connection in East Boston.
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Postby octr202 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:51 am

Wondering if I'll see the Haverhill double-tracking finished before I retire...
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Postby CJ » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:58 am

You know where that temp connection was? Im guessing somewhere along the old tracks near the chelsea creek?

Also, the child in me makes me laugh @ the 'Do Not Hump', but seriously, did they track in the trucks too (as in on the same train?) and assemble em up in the workshop?
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Postby jonnhrr » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:17 pm

This connection probably does not exist anymore, but in the 1960's they added a connection between the red line just south of what is now JFK/UMass (Columbia Rd. in those days) and the NH Old Colony Main which was used to bring the 01400 cars onto the Red Line tracks.
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Postby NealG » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:43 pm

I believe that there is a provision for a connection just south of the Green Street station platform on the Orange Line. There are no tracks, but the concrete bed seems to have been formed to allow for tracks to be installed should there ever be a need to do so.
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