PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestretch

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PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestretch

Postby Arlington » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:15 pm

This seems worth its own thread (sorry if duplicative: I could not find one with PTC or Positive in its thread title): The T has published a weekend shutdown schedule for pretty much the entire PTC rollout:

Commuter Rail Positive Train Control (PTC) Program
2017 Weekend train service is projected to be suspended for:
  • The Newburyport/Rockport Line starting the weekend of July 8, 2017 through the weekend of September 30, 2017.
  • The Lowell Line starting the weekend of August 5, 2017 through the weekend of September 30, 2017.
  • The Needham Line starting the weekend of September 23, 2017 through the weekend of November 25, 2017.
  • The Haverhill Line starting the weekend of September 23, 2017 through the weekend of December 2, 2017.
  • The Fairmount Line starting the weekend of November 18, 2017 through the weekend of December 23, 2017.

  • 2018 PTC weekend shutdowns will be finalized by late 2017/early 2018 in order to start back up in Spring of 2018, and will impact the
    • Franklin,
    • Fitchburg, and
    • Worcester Commuter Rail lines.
  • No weekend shutdowns are required on the Greenbush, Middleborough, Providence/Stoughton, and Kingston/Plymouth Commuter Rail lines.
[bolds and some formatting mine]

By finishing the work in Spring/Summer of 2018, they've done a nice job of meeting the December 31, 2018 federal deadline.
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Re: PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestret

Postby johnpbarlow » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:36 am

Q: when each MBTA line's PTC gear installation work is complete after the weekend shutdowns, will PTC be immediately operational on each line? Or is there another date where all lines will be cut-in at one time once all lines' installations are completed in 2018? If the former, I'm guessing that a few PAR locomotives will need to be made PTC operational this year?
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Re: PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestret

Postby StefanW » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:24 pm

From reading the most recent presentation to the FMCB, it sounds to me like only Lowell and Stoughton are going to be online by the end of 2018.

See pages 2 and 6:
http://www.mbta.com/uploadedfiles/About_the_T/Board_Meetings/PTC%20Update%206-26-17%20FOR%20POSTING.pdf

Everything else is going to be online in 2019 and 2020.
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Re: PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestret

Postby RenegadeMonster » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:45 pm

If this is true I'm guessing it's because of all the PAR engines that need to be upgraded as well?
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Re: PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestret

Postby BostonUrbEx » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:19 pm

No, it is because they need to have one new, working demonstration on both North and South sides by the deadline. PAR operates on the Lowell Line, so they'd definitely need to have some compliant equipment by then.
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Re: PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestret

Postby sery2831 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:15 pm

RenegadeMonster wrote:If this is true I'm guessing it's because of all the PAR engines that need to be upgraded as well?


There is an agreement for a limited amount of PAR locos to get the PTC set up, not all of them.
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Re: PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestret

Postby octr202 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:07 pm

T Alerts are announcing that weekend busing on the Eastern Route will go through August 27th, so looks like the PTC weekend closures will end about a month earlier than originally expected.

T Press Release - work will start on Needham Branch first weekend in September:

http://www.mbta.com/about_the_mbta/news ... 6442458458
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Re: PTC Project 2017 - 2018 Positive Train Control homestret

Postby chrisf » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:01 pm

As with Newburyport/Rockport, the PTC install on the Needham Line is wrapping up a month early, with Saturday service resuming on October 28.
https://www.mbta.com/news/3057
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