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Re: F40PH-2C/F40PHM-2C overhaul program

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:07 pm

my apologizes, I stand corrected, thank you!

and thank you 1118 for the list, haven't heard back yet of the other 5 units to go
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Re: F40PH-2C/F40PHM-2C overhaul program

Postby BandA » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:10 am

$27M for overhaul of 10 locomotives that are 30 years old. Mr Aiello may be on to something. How much does a brand-new locomotive of similar power to these cost? The HSP-46's cost $6M each only a few years ago for a more powerful locomotive, so this doesn't seem like a good value.
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Re: F40PH-2C/F40PHM-2C overhaul program

Postby RenegadeMonster » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:50 am

That would only make sense.


But I think they are looking at it like buying new will only get them have as many locomotives than fixing the old junk. They need X amount to keep the fleet a float.

But fixing the old junk, there is a chance that it wont be long until only 5 of the patched units are reliable. So mine as well have bought the new ones.
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Re: F40PH-2C/F40PHM-2C overhaul program

Postby Trinnau » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:36 pm

This is about short vs. long-term. Those 10 locos will all be done in 18 months (some sooner). New purchases will take at least twice, probably in the 3-5 year range. Remember the MBTA still has to go out to bid for new locomotives, so this is an unfortunate stopgap expense due to lack of earlier planning.
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Re: F40PH-2C/F40PHM-2C overhaul program

Postby BandA » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:28 pm

[OT]...like separately installing two sets of fiber cables, one buried, one on poles, for two separate projects?
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Re: F40PH-2C/F40PHM-2C overhaul program

Postby mxdata » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:36 pm

The existing fleet will continue to fail crankshafts at an accelerated rate because the engines are all in a very similar age range out of overhaul, except for the few with recent engine changes, and Keolis and the MBTA have not been able to keep up with need for main bearing renewals. The 645E3C engine will not put up with operation on bearings with excessive wear. When the discussion of this RFP began, about ten units of the 1025 and 1050 series were listed out of service, one with a failed main generator, one with a damaged air compressor and stubshaft, and the rest with main bearing and crankshaft problems. That is a percentage of units out of service for simple mechanical failures that is far in excess of the EMD fleets on other commuter agencies. Changing the units to microprocessor controls won't do anything to limit or reduce these kind of mechanical failures. They have got to get a handle on this situation by engine rebuilds and replacements before it eats them alive. And they don't have very much time left to do it.

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