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Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby The MTA Blue Egg » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:18 pm

Anyone know where I can locate some full side shots of the #3-6 Main Line Elevated Cars?
The clearance diagrams are too vague. I found some shots of ACF #5 0243 on the Delaware
Heritage Collection site but I'd like some others as I plan to model them and would like
to have more info. Any help would be great.
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby MBTA3247 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:54 pm

#3 car 0210 is preserved at Seashore Trolley Museum.

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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby The MTA Blue Egg » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:53 am

Thanks for the pic MBTA 3247. I recall seeing 0210 outside the Sullivan Sq Carhouse as the train of
01100s approached the Sullivan loop coming from Everett. I was young so seeing the old cars occasionally was a treat!
I do remember riding the 0900s once in a while with thier new tangerine and gray paint and new doors.
Time does go by.
Sorry for the stilted syntax of my original post, it's been awhile
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby The MTA Blue Egg » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:54 pm

Dudley Outbound 1987.jpg
I found some pics I took back in the day
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Dover Steelwork Over Washington and East Berkeley St 1987 RBT.jpg
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby The MTA Blue Egg » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:01 pm

The top pic is Dudley Outbound platform from 1987
The second is the steelwork above the Washington St E. Berk. intersection also 1987
I have more but not yet scanned.
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:01 pm

0210 looks very similar to an IRT car. Were the Main Line El loading gauges larger than the IRT? (the present day 01200s are 65' vs. the IRT's 51' body)
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby The MTA Blue Egg » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:13 am

All Main Line cars,#s 1-10, were aprox. 47'-71/4" . The #11s were 55' and the current #12s are 65'.
#s2-6 were based on the "Easy Access Car" designed by the Elevated's John Lindall and C. Sergeant.
I believe that the Brooklyn B.R.T. ordered one car based on the design but weren't happy with it.
I think she spent her final days as a garbage car, rusting away in the corner of a subway yard.
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby MACTRAXX » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:46 am

The MTA Blue Egg wrote:The top pic is Dudley Outbound platform from 1987
The second is the steelwork above the Washington St E. Berk. intersection also 1987
I have more but not yet scanned.


Egg: That Dudley picture on the southbound platform is interesting noting the recent
80s Orange Line cars on the old Washington Street elevated line...

Dudley Station was a fascinating place but unfortunately because of Roxbury's reputation
it seemed like a place to avoid back then - I have learned over time that the best times
to visit and explore lines and stations in questionable areas is to go in the morning during
the AM rush hour - your chances of having unwanted encounters are lowest at that time
of day...Saturday and Sunday mornings are equally quiet time periods...

Looking back I got to ride and use the Washington Street Elevated during the 80s
and for many of us it is just a memory now...

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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby The MTA Blue Egg » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:24 am

The only time I wandered around the platforms back in the day was before the closing of the Wash.El
Lots of railfans taking pics, so it was releatvly safe.
I've attached some pics of the Charlestown Elevated I took in '74.
The 01100's were , and still are, my favorite cars. Railfan window, train door window, beatiful track
music sound, I think they had it all. So sad to see how quickly they deteriorated on the
Haymarket North.
These pics were taken with a Kodak Instamatic sorry for the yuck quality
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby typesix » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:01 am

The MTA Blue Egg wrote:The 01100's were , and still are, my favorite cars. Railfan window, train door window, beatiful track
music sound, I think they had it all. So sad to see how quickly they deteriorated on the
Haymarket North.


The 01100s were the first mass production use of air springs for rail vehicles.They were the best riding of the subway air sprung cars to date(compared to the Blue LIne Siemens, don't know), quiet and smooth running. T didn't take care of them that well in the later years, especially since newer cars were coming. What's bad especially is that T didn't fix the flat wheels that often, which seems to have spread to the 01200 cars, Blue(the 0600 cars) and the Red Line.
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby Gerry6309 » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:21 am

R36 Combine Coach wrote:0210 looks very similar to an IRT car. Were the Main Line El loading gauges larger than the IRT? (the present day 01200s are 65' vs. the IRT's 51' body)

Main Line Elevated was 8' 6" over the thresholds. Like the IRT there were sliding platform extenders where stations extended onto curves. East Boston Cars were the same loading gauge but lower roof clearance. Cambridge-Dorchester cars are 9' 6" nominal. All cars are wider above the floor since 1957.

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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby The MTA Blue Egg » Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:49 am

The flat spot on the wheels of the 01100s seemed to show up shortly after the opening of the Haymarket North.
The roar they made on the Washington Street Elevated was deafening.
Gerry I remember the sliding platforms at Sullivan,out of service by my time.
I never saw them in operation. Must have made for intersting dwell times.

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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby WatertownCarBarn » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:24 pm

What was it about Haymarket North that damaged wheels?
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby Charliemta » Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:37 pm

The right-angle (90 degree) turns at Causeway and Haverhill Streets, and Causeway and N Washington Streets were tough on the wheels.
Long live the "El"
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Re: Main Line Elevated Cars

Postby WatertownCarBarn » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:06 pm

Got it, thanks.
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