jbvb wrote:I rode the 8600s on Boston - Providence locals via the old NY&NE (Fairmount) route during the SW Corridor reconstruction 1981-1984 or so. They were in pretty sad shape, spongy floors, dirty, worn interiors. AFAIK, they all stayed steam-heated till they were scrapped. At least one ex-B&M RDC-3s was refitted with a steam boiler in the baggage/mail compartment so the first F-40PHs (screamers) could haul them in the winter. I never saw any on the North Side, which was all GP-7s and de-powered RDCs or ex-Toronto Hawker-Siddeley cars until the F-10s, MBB and Pullman coaches started to arrive. The H-S cars (truly awful rides) were usually kept on the Eastern Route, which might be related to your 'AFAIK'.
typesix wrote:I rode them several times in 1980 and thought they were in OK condition, they rode better than Amfleet cars(except laterally). AC didn't work, end door was open to allow air movement thru the cars.
NH2060 wrote:How many of the P-S cars were transferred over to the MBTA and when/on which lines were the last of the coaches retired? AFAIK a number of them were sent to the North Station lines in the early 1980s and rolled out their final miles on Ipswich/Rockport trains (for those cars that weren't later picked up by the Cape Cod & Hyannis).
jbvb wrote:I didn't use the north side much in 1984/5, so I guess I missed them. Presumably the best of the lot, since they got MBTA purple. Accelerating away from Hyde Park in 1982, I remember the water between the window panes taking on a tilt...
TomNelligan wrote:The two cars with Rhode Island DOT logos were ex-PRR P70 coaches, not ex-NH. They were originally assigned to the single Westerly-Providence weekday local that lasted into the 1970s.
NH2060 wrote:there was at least one 8600 with RI logos:
http://www.railpixs.com/mbta/ex-NewHave ... Sept77.jpg
Interesting how that train was powered by an MBTA GP-7 (9?)
TomNelligan wrote:Is that an RIDOT logo, or just a faded circle-T? It's hard to tell from that photo. I remember only the RIDOT P70s from that period but of course that doesn't mean that other variations didn't exit.
Abe Froman wrote:NH2060 wrote:How many of the P-S cars were transferred over to the MBTA and when/on which lines were the last of the coaches retired? AFAIK a number of them were sent to the North Station lines in the early 1980s and rolled out their final miles on Ipswich/Rockport trains (for those cars that weren't later picked up by the Cape Cod & Hyannis).
From Thomas Humphrey and Skip Clark's book, "BOSTON'S COMMUTER RAIL The First 150 Years", Pp. 100 the following cars from the 8600 series were on the MBTA roster as of July 1, 1984: 8601;8603; 8604; 8613; 8620; 8624; 8646; 8648; 8658; 8687; 8694; 8701.
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