Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby KevinSun242 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:28 pm

BostonUrbEx wrote:406 died and 408 had to tie on. There were more than 3 cars on each set.


They also cancelled 408 (which is my normal train) for whatever reason so the entire train was just devoid of passengers.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby MBTA3247 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:25 pm

RenegadeMonster wrote:Pretty sure I have seen 3 or 4 1600 series on a 7 car set recently. Only, pretty sure a few of them had their controls deactivated.


Also, recently I saw a set with 4 300 series. Is it just me, or do you not normally see to many 300s on the North Side.

Also, did any 1300s ever exist?

The 1300s were Pullman-built control cars. They were rebuilt into blind cars 245-258.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby jaymac » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:44 am

The 08-11-2017 402 had 3 1600s, a bi, another flat, and the 1033. There was a sery2831 post of mebbe a coupla years ago about the number of 1600s that had been deactivated as control cars.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby BandA » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:11 pm

MBTA3247 wrote:
RenegadeMonster wrote:Pretty sure I have seen 3 or 4 1600 series on a 7 car set recently. Only, pretty sure a few of them had their controls deactivated.


Also, recently I saw a set with 4 300 series. Is it just me, or do you not normally see to many 300s on the North Side.

Also, did any 1300s ever exist?

The 1300s were Pullman-built control cars. They were rebuilt into blind cars 245-258.
Aren't control cars more valuable / in demand than plain coaches? Maybe the controls were worn out/unreliable or obsolete.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby BigUglyCat » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:17 pm

One drawback: by rule, control trailer coaches have to adhere to the same inspection requirements as locomotives. Too many CTC's and you wind up overspending time and money.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby RenegadeMonster » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:25 pm

speaking of control trailers. Are the orange work crew cabooses control cars/trailers?
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby MBTA3247 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:41 pm

No. If a caboose is leading a train, there has to be a crew member on the platform in radio contact with the engineer in the locomotive.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby BandA » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:57 pm

When they remove the control features, do they remove everything or just disable it with the ability to restore the features later?
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby KevinSun242 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:03 am

1818 (the cab for the passenger count train) has migrated south again sometime in the past 48 hours. Saw it on service on Newbury/Rockport on Monday, now it's on Framingham.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby RenegadeMonster » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:12 am

KevinSun242 wrote:1818 (the cab for the passenger count train) has migrated south again sometime in the past 48 hours. Saw it on service on Newbury/Rockport on Monday, now it's on Framingham.


Might have been sooner than that. Most if not all of last week the passenger count train had a control cab of the 16xx series.

Would they have installed a count camera in the 16xx? Or would they have that car blocked off when counting?
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby deathtopumpkins » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:50 am

RenegadeMonster wrote:Might have been sooner than that. Most if not all of last week the passenger count train had a control cab of the 16xx series.


From the OL platform at Sullivan just yesterday I saw the set, and it was all bilevels, no 16xx cab.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby KevinSun242 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:10 am

deathtopumpkins wrote:
RenegadeMonster wrote:Might have been sooner than that. Most if not all of last week the passenger count train had a control cab of the 16xx series.


From the OL platform at Sullivan just yesterday I saw the set, and it was all bilevels, no 16xx cab.


I know last week 1818 had been sitting in the line of coaches at BET too.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby RenegadeMonster » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:59 pm

1821-777-803-623-1070

3 double deckers and not the passenger count train.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby Trinnau » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:33 pm

Passenger count train went south, now plying the Worcester Line.
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Re: Interesting Consist Discussion for the North Side

Postby RenegadeMonster » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:25 am

Saw car 500 is running MassDOT logos. Also noticed a lot more locomotives are have a round MassDOT sticker on the front?

Is MassDOT buying MBTA equipment?
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