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Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby ns3010 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:48 pm

I went out before and found wire car 4366 making repairs along the E. It's definitely neat to see it out in action! (Sorry, the photo's aren't the best; the car was in the shadows and obstructed by fences and cat poles)

At MFA:
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At Longwood Medical Area:
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Now for a few questions:

1. It appears that the car is self-powered since it has a pan on the roof. However, the car was being towed by 3812 (not pictured above) and 3685. Is it only a dummy pan on 4366 that doesn't actually collect power and is used for testing purposes only?

EDIT: According to the Subway Delays Thread, the wire car is currently disabled, hence the tow from the 8-7 pair. D'oh!

2. Also, would anyone know what is involved in moving the car while work is taking place? Obviously, power has to be cut to the wires while they are being worked on, but power is required to move the car (and the ones pulling it). I guess they turn the power on and off every time the car moves to a new spot?

3. What happens if the car is physically not able to move under power (like downed wires, for example)? Do they move/shove the car as close as possible to the exact location requiring work and then shut the power off?

Thanks for your help!
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby BigUglyCat » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:29 pm

ns3010 wrote:(Sorry, the photo's aren't the best; the car was in the shadows and obstructed by fences and cat poles)

Joe: Your photos are fine. No complaint whatsoever.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby MBTA3247 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:20 pm

ns3010 wrote:2. Also, would anyone know what is involved in moving the car while work is taking place? Obviously, power has to be cut to the wires while they are being worked on, but power is required to move the car (and the ones pulling it). I guess they turn the power on and off every time the car moves to a new spot?

The work platform on all wire cars is insulated from the ground so work can be done on the wires without shutting off the power.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby dieciduej » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:50 am

I saw her moving on her on power going east, outbound, between Park and Government at about noon-ish.

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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby StevieC48 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:16 am

The wire car was under its own power when it first came out. I believe the motors were blown. The trucks and motors are from the 1951 Blue Line St.Louis Cars which might be an issue, unless Seashore has a spare or two. The pantograph is on there for power and not a dummy pantograph.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby CircusFreakGRITZ » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:32 am

I found this cool video on YouTube of the wire car in action!

http://youtu.be/F6JhKUHHu3Y
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby ns3010 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:05 pm

Awesome, thanks for the answers! :-)

In other news, it was being towed west through Copley at about 2:10 this afternoon. Not sure exactly where it was going or what was pulling it (didn't really notice it until it was right outside my window), but I would guess it was on the way out to Reservoir or Riverside for repair.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby typesix » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:35 am

Seen this morning at 10am going inbound at Allston and Commonwealth under its own power.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby BostonUrbEx » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:15 am

typesix wrote:Seen this morning at 10am going inbound at Allston and Commonwealth under its own power.


I overhead on the radio, at approximately 12:00 noon, that they were holding trains at Park whilst they shuffle the wire car around. I assume they were laying it up at Boylston. Maybe some central subway wire work overnight tonight. There's also bussing between North Station and Lechmere after 9:00pm, tonight -- could be related.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:15 pm

BostonUrbEx wrote:
typesix wrote:Seen this morning at 10am going inbound at Allston and Commonwealth under its own power.


I overhead on the radio, at approximately 12:00 noon, that they were holding trains at Park whilst they shuffle the wire car around. I assume they were laying it up at Boylston. Maybe some central subway wire work overnight tonight. There's also bussing between North Station and Lechmere after 9:00pm, tonight -- could be related.


It used to live permanently at Boylston until about 2-3 years ago. Possibly when it started having motor issues.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby BostonUrbEx » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:56 pm

F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:
BostonUrbEx wrote:
typesix wrote:Seen this morning at 10am going inbound at Allston and Commonwealth under its own power.


I overhead on the radio, at approximately 12:00 noon, that they were holding trains at Park whilst they shuffle the wire car around. I assume they were laying it up at Boylston. Maybe some central subway wire work overnight tonight. There's also bussing between North Station and Lechmere after 9:00pm, tonight -- could be related.


It used to live permanently at Boylston until about 2-3 years ago. Possibly when it started having motor issues.


Pretty sure it was stored at Boylston every night even more recently than 2 years ago. I would see it all the time. But yes, it's a rare sight these days.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby WatertownCarBarn » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:56 pm

I assume they were laying it up at Boylston.


Yes it was there this morning.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:10 pm

Does that mean the motor's fixed now that it's being allowed to lay up outside the carhouses again?
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby BostonUrbEx » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:28 pm

F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:Does that mean the motor's fixed now that it's being allowed to lay up outside the carhouses again?


Based on pics of it running on its own, I'd say yes. Saw someone post a picture of it running down either Beacon or Comm Ave, without any LRVs towing it around.
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Re: Green Line Wire Car 4366

Postby deathtopumpkins » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:54 pm

The wire car is most definitely being stored at Boylston now. Just passed it.

Its funny, that thing looks almost as antique as the PCC on the opposite track!
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