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Re: Cape Flyer Discussion

Postby TomNelligan » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:40 pm

Arlington wrote:Best guess I've seen is that IP layoffs were a normal seasonal layoff that the media construed as unexpected news.


Discussions on some other rail sites (example below) suggest that Iowa Pacific is having cash flow problems and there have been layoffs all across its system.

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=40197
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Re: Cape Flyer Discussion

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:09 pm

Doubt any of this is going to impact the Cape, as the MassDOT FY17-21 CIP is flush with tons of SGR upgrades to the Middleboro Secondary, Cape Main, Falmouth Branch, and the Yarmouth stub to the transfer station. I can't find it on board search, but somewhere this summer I copypastad a full bullet list of the line items (maybe it's back a few pages???). It's a very impressive and intensive list, much of it freight IOU's that they committed to in the great CSX/Mass Coastal swap of '08 now finally being slotted on the calendar. Basically the whole Cape-related rail network at-large is getting as much TLC over the next 4 years as the main from M'boro to BB got during the first couple Flyer seasons.

Now...who they contract out for the work may be affected by any Iowa Pacific financial issues longer-lasting than one bad fiscal year. They'd be the ideal choice for the track work as they've done a pretty spiffy job helping out with the Framingham Secondary upgrades. It would probably be their track gangs imported from HQ out-of-state as surge forces who'd be on the ground here for the few years this project bundle is scheduled, so watch if any centralized services @ IP get hit with big and/or destabilizing layoffs (if their internal problems trend to the severe...which we can't extrapolate from any of the rumors).
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Re: Cape Flyer Discussion

Postby Arlington » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:21 pm

Is this the list of upcoming work? How much is programmed for 2017?
F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:They can't take Falmouth by force, no matter if another Turkington-type troll in the Legislature tries to salt the earth. CCCR/Mass Coastal have federally protected trackage rights, and MC is a common carrier so the loophole is sealed shut for any Adirondack Scenic-type shennanigans. Dinner train had Falmouth excursions each of the past two weekends, so the branch is certainly getting regular use.


From the itemization, looks like most of it is mundane bridge/culvert inspections and repairs. General summary of items:

Cape Main (Middleboro-Hyannis)
Cohasset Narrows Bridge replacement: $8.2M
Track work (cumulative): $7M
Yards and "support facilities": $6.8M <-- ED: Hyannis layover? Rochester Yard/trash train upgrades?
Yard track work (cumulative): $3.7M
Hyannis Yard reconfig (rail + crossing work related to Route 28 reconfig): $2.2M
Bridges and culverts (cumulative): $2.1M
Grade crossing improvements: $1.9M
Siding upgrades (rail, ties, ballast) @ Tremont, Sagamore, Sandwich, W. Barnstable: $1.5M
Station fencing/railing installs @ Hyannis, Wareham: $183K
Other (cumulative) - $558K

Falmouth Secondary
Grade crossing improvements: $1.5M
"Structures": $1.2M
Track improvements (cumulative): $999K
Bridges and culverts (cumulative) - $135K
Other (cumulative) - $73K

South Dennis Secondary
Grade crossing improvements: $588K
Track improvements: $460K
Other: $147K

Middleboro Secondary
Track and switches improvements (cumulative): $12.9M
Grade crossing protection improvements: $3.6M
Bridges and culverts (cumulative): $2.9M
Grade crossing improvements (surfaces?): $1.8M
Other (cumulative): $2.6M


That's a pretty fat menu programmed over the next 5 years for the Cape region.
When I hear the iron horse make the hills echo with his snort like thunder, shaking the earth with his feet, and breathing fire and smoke from his nostrils, it seems as if the earth had got a race now worthy to inhabit it. --H.D. Thoreau, Walden, 1854
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Re: Cape Flyer Discussion

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:50 pm

That's the one. The CIP only tracks the payment installment plan across each fiscal year. It isn't a schedule document, and in the minority of cases where MassDOT is paying forward for some project the construction schedule can sometimes lag behind the CIP years (though budget front-loading is a lot rarer for discrete capital improvements and more often employed for 'recharging' a forever-ongoing contract).

It's coming soon. M'boro Secondary freight upgrades are slated immediately after the Framingham Secondary work wraps up because that's #1 on the CSX-owed priority list. Since the Fram. Sec. is pretty much in last stages on the Mansfield end as of ground freeze we'll probably be looking at a kickoff in Attleboro this spring/summer. When the rest is scheduled would be documented elsewhere on the MassDOT website in the project log, contract advertisements, etc. But those entries rarely give useful detail. I guess we'll be waiting for some local news report explainer to get the full story from a spokesflak. Grade crossing renewal and gate installations on the M'boro Sec. are getting a big push, so that'll probably make the Taunton-area news when construction progress gets closer to that downtown crossing cluster.
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Re: Cape Flyer Discussion

Postby Backshophoss » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:46 pm

With IP having big money problems,has Mass Coastal/Cape Cod Central posted any notice of "discontinued" passenger service
for this summer season??
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Re: Cape Flyer Discussion

Postby Bill Reidy » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:10 pm

Backshophoss wrote:With IP having big money problems,has Mass Coastal/Cape Cod Central posted any notice of "discontinued" passenger service
for this summer season??


The Cape Cod Central's website (capetrain.com) states tickets go on sale March 15th. 2017 schedules have not yet been posted.
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Re: Cape Flyer Discussion

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:44 pm

Backshophoss wrote:With IP having big money problems,has Mass Coastal/Cape Cod Central posted any notice of "discontinued" passenger service
for this summer season??


Nah. The big IP operations hemorrhaging money were Pullman Rail Journeys, Saratoga & North Creek, and Texas State RR. Those were the ones that bore the brunt of the service cutbacks and layoffs, while some of the primarily freight marks like San Luis & Rio Grande have canceled their niche/non-critical excursion services. CCCR is profitable, and backed by year-round revenue from Mass Coastal freight...with the trash train contract for the state giving MC stable guaranteed carloads and the MassDOT dispatcher contract for the Framingham Sec., Middleboro Sec., Cape, and South Coast giving the back-office 7 days a week of work. Cape Rail's loco fleet was just overhauled, their main yard's about to be reconfigured by state grant, and there's more physical plant grants kicking in throughout their territory...including pending 286K weights on CSX from their interchange.

Cape Rail is one of the IP holdings to firewall around in a restructuring, or one of the sell-high prizes to broker intact at full service in a liquidation. It's appreciated in value since IP bought them because of Cape Flyer and all this MassDOT investment in the passenger + freight infrastructure of their territory. And it would very likely face a local bidding war if it were put up for sale. G&U's John Priscoli almost bought a controlling stake in them before IP was in the picture, and Seaview just snapped up the Newport dinner train to put themselves in the local acquisition game and the excursion RR game.
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