Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby dbperry » Fri May 29, 2015 8:56 am

MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 wrote:Per a yahoogroup posting by Gary Young, dated 5/29, MBTA cars coming home! XMBT coaches 700, 716, 739, 743, 745, 1704 showing now at Mechanicville, NY


drop them in Worcester and add them to P582, P506 and P508! all of those trains need more capacity!

(I understand they can't do that - they need to go somewhere to get put back in service...)
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby Bramdeisroberts » Fri May 29, 2015 1:51 pm

dbperry wrote:
MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 wrote:Per a yahoogroup posting by Gary Young, dated 5/29, MBTA cars coming home! XMBT coaches 700, 716, 739, 743, 745, 1704 showing now at Mechanicville, NY


drop them in Worcester and add them to P582, P506 and P508! all of those trains need more capacity!

(I understand they can't do that - they need to go somewhere to get put back in service...)


But I kind of like those cute little 4-bilevel consists the T has been running lately. They make me feel like I'm in the south...
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby GP40MC1118 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:06 pm

The six K-Cars are being delivered tonight by PAR LA-2

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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby GP40MC1118 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:57 pm

Four coaches set out at 3rd Avenue for PAR to grab:
720-725-726-1703

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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby houseman86 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:40 pm

This may have already been asked but what is the expected life extension of these cars
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:51 pm

houseman86 wrote:This may have already been asked but what is the expected life extension of these cars


15 years per the projections for this rebuild program on the T's most recent (and dated) fleet management plan, meaning 2030 retirement if there's no second overhaul program commissioned. This overhaul was programmed in the CIP at the time of the last fleet plan revision, so that should still be accurate save for pushing the dates of the program and the projected retirement dates for the cars up by +4 years to account for the program's late start.

Contract options for the BTC-4A and BTC-4B overhauls, if exercised, would be for the same figures.
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:21 pm

the 1705 rebuild is turning out not to be friendly with some of the new locomotives as of late... 2012 for example....reason why 72/74 was a double draft 6/10 right in Greenbush station..as well as another incident yesterday
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby Bramdeisroberts » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:06 pm

MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 wrote:the 1705 rebuild is turning out not to be friendly with some of the new locomotives as of late... 2012 for example....reason why 72/74 was a double draft 6/10 right in Greenbush station..as well as another incident yesterday


Is it the same sort of electrical teething issues that the totem cab cars had?
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:59 am

Bramdeisroberts wrote:
MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 wrote:the 1705 rebuild is turning out not to be friendly with some of the new locomotives as of late... 2012 for example....reason why 72/74 was a double draft 6/10 right in Greenbush station..as well as another incident yesterday


Is it the same sort of electrical teething issues that the totem cab cars had?


Probably not. The big problem with the Rotems was the spaghetti wiring done at that troubled Philly plant where everything was strung out haphazardly and totally unlabeled for troubleshooting. Wiring for everything, not just one thing. That's one of the big reasons why the R's are going to age so horribly and not make it to overhaul; once connections start to unsettle from years of use, the wiring problems are going to crop up anywhere and everywhere and be a real ordeal to isolate and patch.

The K car rebuild leaves vast majority of it alone and would only touch whatever's being upgraded + the computer dodads being installed. And then one would hope Alstom's electricians were not as pants-on-fire unqualified as Rotem's. So it's probably "normal" teething issue with some very systems-specific modification.
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby boblothrope » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:53 am

F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:The big problem with the Rotems was the spaghetti wiring done at that troubled Philly plant where everything was strung out haphazardly and totally unlabeled for troubleshooting.


Where did you hear this?
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:25 am

boblothrope wrote:
F-line to Dudley via Park wrote:The big problem with the Rotems was the spaghetti wiring done at that troubled Philly plant where everything was strung out haphazardly and totally unlabeled for troubleshooting.


Where did you hear this?


Rotem thread. Discussed extensively on there. Start from the pages in the mid-80's and work backwards if you've got a lot of time to kill.
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby octr202 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:01 am

The four K cars set out on or about June 5th (720-725-726-1703) were finally taken out of town by PAR last night. Caught them this morning as I was inbound on train 202, the K's were in a long string heading back to Lawrence.
Wondering if I'll see the Haverhill double-tracking finished before I retire...
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby GP40MC1118 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:54 am

They were officially set out for pickup June 4th on the 3rd Iron at FX.

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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:05 pm

1705 was a problem yet again in the last few days, was capped with the 1030 (1057 on the West end). "problem" was fixed during the course of the day, so the 1030 was cut off round 3p Lets see how it behaves
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Re: Kawasaki Rebuild Program at Alstom Discussion

Postby GP40MC1118 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:22 am

701, 711 & 1701 on the way home. Last reported in Allentown, Pa. on NS, although the
701 was listed on the repair track.

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