Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

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Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby MarkB » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:48 pm

Please settle a dispute on Facebook - bus or trolly.

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Re: Bus or trolly

Postby BostonUrbEx » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:51 pm

Neither. It is clearly a sardine can.
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Re: Bus or trolly

Postby sery2831 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:14 pm

Not a streetcar. Could be a bus or a trackless. I am guessing it's a left hand door. The MTA did have left hand door buses that were not trackless.
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Re: Bus or trolly

Postby diburning » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:45 pm

It looks like a left side door to me as well. The man in the middle right sitting and looking out the window appears to be facing the left direction (not just his head, his whole body) which would suggest that the head end is to the left.
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Re: Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby dieciduej » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:58 am

I am going to be bold and say it is a bus. Probably a 1948 Mack C-41GT, numbered 2715-2719. MTA had left hand door trolleybuses but they were built by Pullman-Standard and the window looks more like a Mack product than a PS one. But I have no hardcore proof. In fact most of the pictures I have of the trolleybuses with left hand doors were of the right, or passenger side but the windows were square framed.

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Edit 10/25/2012 4:50 AM

I have searched for pictures of the Mack C-41 bus frame and the windows still don't match. If anything looking at more and more bus pictures the windows have a GM "Old Look" arrangement and none of the Boston trackless trolleys had that arrangement. But I am still sticking with its a bus.

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Re: Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby dieciduej » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:35 am

We have an answer, provided by an expert. It is a 2100 or 2300 GMC old-look bus on an emergency shuttle at Park St.. after a Red Line derailment. They referred me to a link on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Boston-MBTA-Accidents-1960s-Scores-of-commuters-Press-Photo-/190653241352?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item2c63d19808

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PS The guy in the window must be a contortionist!
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Re: Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby MarkB » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:36 pm

Thanks for the responses - I knew this group would sort it out. I guessed bus, but had no definitive proof.
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Re: Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby DVR10 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:38 pm

Simple solution easily overlooked. The picture is reversed. The negative was flipped. The door is a right side door.
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Re: Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby Teamdriver » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:51 am

Its a scene from ' A Bronx Tale ' that was cut from the completed film.........
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Re: Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby MarkB » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:15 pm

DVR10 wrote:Simple solution easily overlooked. The picture is reversed. The negative was flipped. The door is a right side door.



While possible, you very rarely see it happen with old photos. As opposed to digital photos these days, which constantly show up on the Web with words - typically on t-shirts - backwards.
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Re: Bus or Trolley in Old Picture

Postby DVR10 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:37 pm

MarkB wrote:
DVR10 wrote:Simple solution easily overlooked. The picture is reversed. The negative was flipped. The door is a right side door.



While possible, you very rarely see it happen with old photos. As opposed to digital photos these days, which constantly show up on the Web with words - typically on t-shirts - backwards.


My comment was a possible answer to the original question. Something was transposed, negative, image editing software, scanning software it doesn't matter where, when or how, since this is not a trolley, and not a trackless, it's more likely that it is a GMC bus and since the M(B)TA didn't have GMC buses with left hand doors, it must be a reversed picture. The building in the picture is on Tremont street across from Park Street station, it's still there with the shutters intact above the 7 Eleven, the bus would be going in the wrong direction on Tremont as the picture reveals. So I downloaded the picture, flipped it horizontal and it's facing the right direction on Tremont and has a right hand rear door. My guess it's a bus.
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