Countdown Signs Discussion

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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby boblothrope » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:09 pm

A few weekends ago at Forest Hills, the signs were blank except for the clock.

Then when a train arrived, "Oak Grove BRD" appeared, and stayed up for the several minutes the train layed over in the station.

Is it always like that at Forest Hills? There's no point having a sign like that -- it provides no useful information.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:57 pm

boblothrope wrote:A few weekends ago at Forest Hills, the signs were blank except for the clock.

Then when a train arrived, "Oak Grove BRD" appeared, and stayed up for the several minutes the train layed over in the station.

Is it always like that at Forest Hills? There's no point having a sign like that -- it provides no useful information.


They were having trouble getting things ironed out at terminus points, so that may have been the reason. It may have been updated by now.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby jboutiet » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:15 pm

jamesinclair wrote:
The EGE wrote:Looks like they're leaving space for countdown timers once those transponders are fully online in 2015.


Its simple software....

You can have full names today AND make room for clocks in 2015. Its not either/or.
Just because it's software, doesn't make it simple software. And besides, if they've determined that "Rivside" is going to be sufficient once the timers work, then it's sufficient now. If they need to change it to say "Riverside" so people understand it, then they might as well start shopping for the new displays that they'll need in 2015.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby JonY12 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:46 pm

At North Quincy to Quincy Adams the countdown signs only worked for the Braintree side and were blank on the Alewife side, but starting at JFK/Umass both sides were working and on the southbound side displayed Ashmont and Braintree. Why can't they display only Braintree when Ashmont has a weekend diversion?
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Re: MBTA finally enters the 1970's

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:00 pm

diburning wrote:And for those who don't have a smartphone or don't want to download an app, there's always this site. (Warning, rated R) It shows work trains and deadhead moves as well!


That was a great site, but has not worked in months. I missed it though...
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby ns3010 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:13 pm

Looks like most or all of the Green Line stations are getting ready to get next train signs. As of a few days ago, all the signs from Park west to Hynes (including Prudential and Symphony) were displaying only the time in the top right corner. North Station, Haymarket, and GC have only been showing the time since their respective heavy rail platforms got countdown clocks. I'm guessing that Science Park is also only displaying the time now, but I can't be certain as I haven't been through there recently.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby diburning » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:32 am

Kenmore's outbound signs already show which trains are coming next although there's no countdown.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby The EGE » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:36 pm

As of last week, the Kenmore audio announcements announce arrivals as they hit the platform:

"A B train to Boston College is arriving; followed by a C train to Cleveland Circle."

This indicates they are now integrating data not only from a sensor somewhere as far east as Park, but also a sensor within about a hundred yards of Kenmore. Progress!
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby deathtopumpkins » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:18 pm

Dunno if this is new or I just never noticed it before, but you can now see the train arrival information from countdown signs in stations on the MBTA website!

http://www.mbta.com/rider_tools/realtime_subway/
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby Adams_Umass_Boston » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:44 pm

That is very nice. Will use that in the future. I was using one of the apps for the subway and it was never accurate.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby CircusFreakGRITZ » Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:16 am

The EGE wrote:This indicates they are now integrating data not only from a sensor somewhere as far east as Park, but also a sensor within about a hundred yards of Kenmore. Progress!

I believe it's the AVI sensor at Copley outbound (which determines which way the switch gets thrown--straight for B, C, D or left for E) which determines the "1)...2)" listing, and then the AVI sensor at Kenmore outbound which prompts the arrival announcement. Progress, yes, but using preexisting AVI equipment. :-D

By the way, in my opinion, the BEST tool for real-time subway and bus arrival information is http://mbtainfo.com. It's text-only, so it loads quickly on your phone, it's reliable, and it's FREE! I'm surprised more people haven't heard about it!
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby The EGE » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:17 am

A presentation today at the public MBTA ROC meeting indicated that the Green Line is still on schedule for full tracking (GPS and AVI) by the end of the year. The data will look differently than the heavy rail lines to the MBTA, but will be formatted to appear the same as them for public data feeds.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby BostonUrbEx » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:58 pm

The EGE wrote:A presentation today at the public MBTA ROC meeting indicated that the Green Line is still on schedule for full tracking (GPS and AVI) by the end of the year. The data will look differently than the heavy rail lines to the MBTA, but will be formatted to appear the same as them for public data feeds.


There's currently a bid out for the project. AVI in the tunnels (and near tunnels, to account for locating delay when surfacing), with GPS above ground.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby deathtopumpkins » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:18 am

Apparently above-ground Green Line tracking will go live this afternoon!

http://bostinno.streetwise.co/2014/10/2 ... real-time/

That's an unexpected surprise! Underground tracking is still scheduled for next year though.
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Re: Countdown Signs Discussion

Postby boblothrope » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:31 pm

boblothrope wrote:It's no fun to guess wrong when there are trains parked on both tracks. Train operators hardly ever make an announcement before they close the doors and go. There used to be light-up "Next Train" signs [at Alewife], but they were removed a few years ago.


Last Friday I noticed that after several years, the backlit signs at Alewife which say which train leaves first are working again!

Unfortunately the panels still say "Ashmont/Braintree ->" instead of "Next train ->". But some people will figure out what they mean.
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