Favourite car type

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What's your favourite subway car?

Rohr 1000 #1
24
38%
Breda 2000 #2
4
6%
Breda 3000 #3
4
6%
Breda 4000 #4
7
11%
CAF-IND 5000 #5
24
38%
 
Total votes : 63

Postby Robert Paniagua » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:06 am

Hmm, i see that there isnt a place for the Breda Rehabs - those are my favorites, followed by the other 3000/4000s.

Actually for the Breda Rehabs, they would fall under the Breda Cars Option I started with the Polls. Especially since all active Breda's 2000 & 3000 cars should be overhauled by now.
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Postby Sand Box John » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:46 am

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Actually for the Breda Rehabs, they would fall under the Breda Cars Option I started with the Polls. Especially since all active Breda's 2000 & 3000 cars should be overhauled by now.

All of the Breda’s have not been rotated out for rehabilitation yet. Saw and road aboard a few on 03 27 2006.
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Rehabs and Replacements

Postby DCmetrogreen » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:36 pm

Alstom is rehabbing 2000s, 3000s, and 4000s but not 1000s.

They are going to replace them with the 6000s as they are reaching the end of their lives being built back in 1976.

It is harder to tell new cars from rehabbed cars because the interiors of them are the same- maroon and blue seats, metal poles, LED signs inside and new carpet.

The exterior differences between new and old cars are:
No DC plates on front door of new cars
Old car font windows have silver cladding, new cars have black cladding
New cars have exterior speakers
New cars have orange LEDs, Old have green LEDs
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Re: Rehabs and Replacements

Postby Sand Box John » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:20 am

"DCmetrogreen"
Alstom is rehabbing 2000s, 3000s, and 4000s but not 1000s.

They are going to replace them with the 6000s as they are reaching the end of their lives being built back in 1976.


The Rohr cars (1000 series) were rehabilitated in the late 1990s They are expected to be around until the middle of the next decade. WMATA will not retire the Rohr’s until all of the 7000 series car are delivered from a procurement contract that has not yet been advertised.

"DCmetrogreen"
It is harder to tell new cars from rehabbed cars because the interiors of them are the same- maroon and blue seats, metal poles, LED signs inside and new carpet.

The exterior differences between new and old cars are:
No DC plates on front door of new cars
Old car font windows have silver cladding, new cars have black cladding


I am assuming you are referring to the rubber and aluminum window moldings

"DCmetrogreen"
New cars have exterior speakers
New cars have orange LEDs, Old have green LEDs


That would be Green flip dots. They only exist on the remaining unrehabilitated Breda’s
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:58 pm

The Rohr cars (1000 series) were rehabilitated in the late 1990s They are expected to be around until the middle of the next decade. WMATA will not retire the Rohr’s until all of the 7000 series car are delivered from a procurement contract that has not yet been advertised.

Yeah, you're definitely right about this. AFAIK, I have not heard of any plans to retire the #1 cars until the next decade, since these units were rehabbed in the mid 90s. Therefore, the Kawasaki/Alstom #6 Cars will NOT replace the #1s. The #7s will replace the 1's when they come, but not for a long time to come.
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Re: Rehabs and Replacements

Postby Love Train » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:31 pm

DCmetrogreen wrote:Alstom is rehabbing 2000s, 3000s, and 4000s but not 1000s.

They are going to replace them with the 6000s as they are reaching the end of their lives being built back in 1976.

It is harder to tell new cars from rehabbed cars because the interiors of them are the same- maroon and blue seats, metal poles, LED signs inside and new carpet.

The exterior differences between new and old cars are:
No DC plates on front door of new cars
Old car font windows have silver cladding, new cars have black cladding
New cars have exterior speakers
New cars have orange LEDs, Old have green LEDs


Some interior differences between the CAFs and Rehabs are:

The CAF interior LED has a thin black outline, while the Rehab interior LED has a thick outline.
The door-closing light is off-center of the doors on the Rehabs but not on the CAFs

I'm sure there are more.
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Postby Mike Morris » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:07 am

Alstom will be bidding on the rehab of the 4000s but biding has not started on this yet.
The 6000s are not replacing the 1000s.

Kawasaki has nothing to do with the 6K. The only Alstom/ Kawasaki project is the R-160 project in NYC.
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Postby Mike Morris » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:43 pm

From an operating standpoint-I like the 4000s. They and the 1000s are the most reliable.

The 1000s can be a PITA to work on since many components are huge and hard to work on since tech was an infant on these back then.

The rehabbed 2000,3000(still many that are not rehabbed) are the easiest to work on in regard to propulsion since they can now be scanned electronically. BTW rehabbed cars and 6000s come delivered with the old voice on the speakers.

The 5000s are by far my least favorite. They are noisy(can hear one from a mile away),unreliable and horribly built. Not to mention how long it took for them to get in revenue. They were a disaster from the start. Most Metro people HATE 5000s.
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Postby Robert Paniagua » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:25 am

Oh wow, I didn't know that, Believe it or not, I like the pre-rehabbed 3000s ( my first ones I rode in 1986-87) for their cool propulsion sounds and the chopper-controlled hiss which sounds when moving and the CAF 5000s, and I think I'll like the 6's as well. The only thing about the 1000s that I like is the railfan seat which is sideways and only requires me to turn my head and not my whole body to look out front.
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Postby series7000 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:12 pm

Oh i liked the caf train :-D
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Postby Love Train » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:42 pm

series7000 wrote:Oh i liked the caf train :-D

Yeah, that is also my fave. Coolest propulsion noise, don't you agree?
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Postby red-orange line » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:10 pm

i like the rohr and the breda rehabs.
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Favorite Car

Postby LossOfCCU » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:09 pm

I like the 8k cars with all the ignored problems. That had a friction brake problem on the front truck last night that created huge flats. The car has a great chance spoiling everyones commute if they cut those wheels today and release with armed guards.
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Re: Favorite Car

Postby R36 Combine Coach » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:03 pm

LossOfCCU wrote:I like the 8k cars with all the ignored problems.
Lol, the 8000 series? The 7000 series has yet to be delivered (in development).
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Re: Favorite Car

Postby Sand Box John » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:51 pm

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Lol, the 8000 series? The 7000 series has yet to be delivered (in development).


The 4 8000 series cars are former 1000 series cars. They are used for revenue collection. 1010-1011, 1044-1045 were renumbered 8000-8003.
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